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A Wayland Compositor in Minecraft

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Re: A Wayland Compositor in Minecraft

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Post by lunar_rover »

mikeweiss wrote: post #27
yakattak wrote: post #11

I can't wait to have windowing bugs and UI issues but in Minecraft! Jokes aside, I've grown to love "XYZ in Minecraft". It's like a newer (still 2011 was a long time ago!) version of "Doom on XYZ".

I haven't used Linux desktop in 6 years but I remember when Wayland was new and started replacing X about 15 years ago and these were common complaints... I hope this is a joke and still isn't the case!

Wayland is a bunch of amateurs trying to be strict and secure and the end result is everyone opening their own security holes to make it usable. It's working now, mostly.

KDE got some kind of video bridge recently which is an insane workaround for something that should've just worked.

Re: A Wayland Compositor in Minecraft

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Post by amlib »

ben-schaaf wrote: post #29
mikeweiss wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't used Linux desktop in 6 years but I remember when Wayland was new and started replacing X about 15 years ago and these were common complaints... I hope this is a joke and still isn't the case!

Significantly less so than before, but it's unfortunately still the case. It's also just now getting features that people have been asking for for over a decade, and of course due to the nature of Wayland the implementations of these features are sporadic and inconsistent.

I think the main difference is that there aren't really any deal-breaker kind of bugs any more, and as far as features there are none missing that users care about compared to X11. It's mostly just annoying bugs and the usual "third party" (including KDE) apps looking off in GNOME because the devs can't reach an agreement on some things, users be dammed.

Re: A Wayland Compositor in Minecraft

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Post by xerox13ster »

amarant wrote: post #28
sandruso wrote: post #4

Minecraft is becoming DOOM in terms of crazy technical feats. I love it.

Now if only someone could make doom run on Minecraft, that would be the ultimate flex.

Pretty sure this has been accomplished on redstone. It was definitely a demake and sped up >10000x not realtime but I believe it was done.

Re: A Wayland Compositor in Minecraft

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Post by creatonez »

jwlake wrote: post #16
rcxdude wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are multiple ways that something can be "in minecraft"

It was more fun when people implemented gates. :)

Can't they just compete in separate categories? People have been making high-level computer mods years before even ComputerCraft, RedPower, or OpenComputers existed. And people will continue to make pure-redstone computers far into the future. Neither category is replacing the other :)

Re: A Wayland Compositor in Minecraft

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Post by schobi »

I'm impressed by the coding skill to achieve a seamless integration and "usability".

But other than a demo "because we can" I'm confused on what this could ever be useful for. AR/VR prototyping? Virtual showroom?

Or maybe for an online presentation? Stream a video of playing Minecraft and get fancy slide transitions? "let's go to the next slide" and "now we enter dangerous territory".. "over here I can show you how this program looks like in real life"

Re: A Wayland Compositor in Minecraft

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Post by exidex »

Not sure why people praise Minecraft for this. This is huge feat of Wayland, and was possible because devs took time to consider use cases outside of current norm, and why it took so long to migrate the ecosystem. People liked to bitch about the "Gnome blocking/not implementing essential protocols" part, but even that partially made this possible

Re: A Wayland Compositor in Minecraft

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Post by mandarax8 »

exidex wrote: post #36

Not sure why people praise Minecraft for this. This is huge feat of Wayland, and was possible because devs took time to consider use cases outside of current norm, and why it took so long to migrate the ecosystem. People liked to bitch about the "Gnome blocking/not implementing essential protocols" part, but even that partially made this possible

Is there any reason that you couldn't implement this on Xorg?

Re: A Wayland Compositor in Minecraft

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Post by dm319 »

schobi wrote: post #35

I'm impressed by the coding skill to achieve a seamless integration and "usability". But other than a demo "because we can" I'm confused on what this could ever be useful for. AR/VR prototyping? Virtual showroom? Or maybe for an online presentation? Stream a video of playing Minecraft and get fancy slide transitions? "let's go to the next slide" and "now we enter dangerous territory".. "over here I can show you how t…

Could have an office Minecraft world with a seminar room instead of Teams?

Re: A Wayland Compositor in Minecraft

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Post by serf »

mandarax8 wrote: post #38
exidex wrote: post #36

Not sure why people praise Minecraft for this. This is huge feat of Wayland, and was possible because devs took time to consider use cases outside of current norm, and why it took so long to migrate the ecosystem. People liked to bitch about the "Gnome blocking/not implementing essential protocols" part, but even that partially made this possible

Is there any reason that you couldn't implement this on Xorg?

absolutely not.

a very near example would be immersed vr which is compatible with xorg and does essentially the same thing (2d windows pasted all over a 3d world), although not integrated into minecraft. also since their solution isn't wayland-centric it has ports to osx and windows.

wayland deserves credit but not for this concept.

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