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Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

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Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

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Iran's chief strategy in this war seems to be to harm Iraq and Saudi Arabia

Basically. Strong country attacks weak country. Weak country can't fight back against strong country so they attack other weak countries hoping they can get enough negative feedback to strong country. And seek sympathy from people in strong country.

Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

#32
post #25

Iran's chief strategy in this war seems to be to harm Iraq and Saudi Arabia

Basically. Strong country attacks weak country. Weak country can't fight back against strong country so they attack other weak countries hoping they can get enough negative feedback to strong country. And seek sympathy from people in strong country.

Hurt people hurt people?

Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're taking this claim way too seriously. Iran is at war. This part of the information war. Nobody is going to pay fees to Iran to use internet cables.

What's to stop Iran from using the threat of cutting those cables as leverage? A speedboat and a depth charge are all it takes, and neither are particularly difficult to make.

Appeasement doesnt stop it, that's for sure. They would still be free to do it.

Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically. Strong country attacks weak country. Weak country can't fight back against strong country so they attack other weak countries hoping they can get enough negative feedback to strong country. And seek sympathy from people in strong country.

Hurt people hurt people?

I guess. I think the dynamic is different though. Iran attacking bystanders is more strategic than what that adage normally refers to in my opinion.

Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

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The Strait of Hormuz is a such a historical f-up. 1) It cuts the oil supply 2) It creates the demand and infrastructure for non-US backed Oil 3) It gives Iran a revenue stream and domain over taxing the Strait where none existed before 4) Crypto happens outstide of reach of most sanctions 5) Not knowing your footing: This has now encompassed the placement of underseas cables and global connectivity 5) As time goes on…

The US has never looked, or been, weaker than it is right now.

It was Jimmy Carter that established that the Strait of Hormuz would stay open, through the strength of the US military threat.

And now? The US is a paper tiger, making ridiculous threats via barely used social media platforms and then revoking them with just as little formality. The US has already done its worst, except for nukes, and the threats of nuking Iran are clear fakes.

The US used to be a guarantor of safety on the seas. That appears to have been completely destroyed by the weak leadership in the US.

Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

#36

The Strait of Hormuz is a such a historical f-up. 1) It cuts the oil supply 2) It creates the demand and infrastructure for non-US backed Oil 3) It gives Iran a revenue stream and domain over taxing the Strait where none existed before 4) Crypto happens outstide of reach of most sanctions 5) Not knowing your footing: This has now encompassed the placement of underseas cables and global connectivity 5) As time goes on…

It was clear from very early on that this war was (IMHO) the largest strategic blunder in US history and it's not even close. Prior to this, closing the Strait was an untested threat. This war forced Iran to prove they can in fact close the Strait and there's nothing the largest military on Earth can do about it. Well done, everybody, the system works.

The one point I'll disagree with is that sanctions do prevent you paying Iran even with crypto. I mean, you can fund your own wallet and give money to Iran but you've technically committed a crime and a pretty serious one. It's also one that's fairly easy to document and prove that you did it.

Oh, also the impact of cutting the world fertilizer supply hasn't hit yet. That'll come later in the year when the harvests are down, primarily in the Global South. This will also impact food prices in the West so look forward to that.

Your last comment suggests weakening of the petrodollar. I don't know if you meant it this way but let me dispel that myth: the USD doesn't have strength and power because oil sales are denominated in dollars. You have it backwards. Oil trades are denominated in dollars because of the demand for dollars and the root of that is the US military.

Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

#37
post #25

Iran's chief strategy in this war seems to be to harm Iraq and Saudi Arabia

Why would they want to harm Iraq? Iraq is mostly Shia who identity with Iran. Their only real military force is Iranian backed Shia militias which led to some interesting things like US bombing Iraqi military installations. More interesting is the media never covered all the American A10s strafing Iraq government installations in Iraq.

Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

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post #25

Iran's chief strategy in this war seems to be to harm Iraq and Saudi Arabia

Basically. Strong country attacks weak country. Weak country can't fight back against strong country so they attack other weak countries hoping they can get enough negative feedback to strong country. And seek sympathy from people in strong country.

Not quite. Saudi Arabia is a base for US operations.

Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

#40

The Strait of Hormuz is a such a historical f-up. 1) It cuts the oil supply 2) It creates the demand and infrastructure for non-US backed Oil 3) It gives Iran a revenue stream and domain over taxing the Strait where none existed before 4) Crypto happens outstide of reach of most sanctions 5) Not knowing your footing: This has now encompassed the placement of underseas cables and global connectivity 5) As time goes on…

Starting a war with Iran without filling the Strategic Petroleum Reserves at $60/bbl was truly special.

The Iran regime was obviously going to be a push over.

Not the first forever war initiated as a Blitzkrieg. Not the last either.

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