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Re: Click (2016)

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Post by Sophira »

foxfired wrote: post #14

I've always added analytics scripts on websites I worked on. It was second nature for me. Then when I got my own start up, I didn't just add regular analytics but one that tracks mouse movements so you can watch sessions back like a video [0]. I told a friend about my start up and she jumped on it immediately. I opened the tool and watched her interaction. Then I told her "oh so you opened the dev tools" She immediat…

> Yeah, we include it in our terms and condition and privacy page

Please be honest with yourself. People don't read terms and conditions. There's a good chance you don't read terms and conditions. And even if you do, odds are better than even that you don't fully understand all the legal implications.

Terms and conditions pages nowadays are there mostly to provide legal protection under the guise of "the user told us that they read these by ticking a box on our signup page; it's hardly our fault if they didn't."

Re: Click (2016)

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Post by EGreg »

htx80nerd wrote: post #19
foxfired wrote: post #14

I've always added analytics scripts on websites I worked on. It was second nature for me. Then when I got my own start up, I didn't just add regular analytics but one that tracks mouse movements so you can watch sessions back like a video [0]. I told a friend about my start up and she jumped on it immediately. I opened the tool and watched her interaction. Then I told her "oh so you opened the dev tools" She immediat…

Everyone knows stores have security cameras. But if you called them up and said 'I saw you pick up the chips' they wouldnt have a good feeling. Everyone understands websites use analytics and tracking, but people dont want to be reminded of it. Which is why people hate those FB ads which exactly match what you searched for 24 hours ago.

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Re: Click (2016)

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Post by Barbing »

Awesome. Looking for this as an iOS app, since I learned dismissing notifications phones home. (Useful feature for multidevice cloud services but can be creepy, companies learning the notifications we expand or leftswipe away… learning our sleep schedules and preferences and all that in ways we might not have specifically expected in this exact case)

Apps know when we’re on WiFi, when we force quit, have potential to have motion sensor access if opting in…

Not sure the presentation needed for acceptance into the App Store. As a security checkup tool or something…

Re: Click (2016)

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Post by Sophira »

I'm guessing this is supposed to illustrate how tracking is ubiquitous, given what I see in the source code.

In my case, though, after carefully enabling only scripts from the site and the Cloudflare CDN, but not enabling XHR/websockets back to the source page, or any cookies, the only thing that happens for me is:

1. I see a button and an exhortation to click the button.

2. I click the button.

3. The site goes "Subject has clicked the button."

4. The site goes "...".

...and then nothing else happens, no matter where I click or move my mouse. In the background I can see attempted websocket connections, but I'm blocking those so they can't happen.

If the aim of the game is to open people's eyes to the dangers of online tracking, it feels like there should be a reward mechanism if such tracking is blocked!

Re: Click (2016)

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Post by singpolyma3 »

jrowen wrote: post #21
foxfired wrote: post #14

I've always added analytics scripts on websites I worked on. It was second nature for me. Then when I got my own start up, I didn't just add regular analytics but one that tracks mouse movements so you can watch sessions back like a video [0]. I told a friend about my start up and she jumped on it immediately. I opened the tool and watched her interaction. Then I told her "oh so you opened the dev tools" She immediat…

I think there's a very interesting duality forming around privacy. It seems like most people don't really care if they're being filmed, or if their data is being slurped up six ways from Sunday, as long as it's aggregated and going through automated systems. But as soon as it feels like an actual person is looking at individual behavior, it's creepy (which is, of course, always a possibility, but plausible deniabilit…

Yes. This is it. People are used to "private conversation in public restaurant". It's not private because no one can hear, but because no one is listening.

Re: Click (2016)

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Post by dang »

Related. Others?

Click (2016) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35841679 - May 2023 (35 comments)

Click - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26518290 - March 2021 (243 comments)

Click click click - A browser-based game on online profiling. - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18636038 - Dec 2018 (1 comment)

A demonstration of browser events used to monitor online behaviour - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12985644 - Nov 2016 (165 comments)

Re: Click (2016)

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Post by ryukoposting »

latexr wrote: post #30
jrowen wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there's a very interesting duality forming around privacy. It seems like most people don't really care if they're being filmed, or if their data is being slurped up six ways from Sunday, as long as it's aggregated and going through automated systems. But as soon as it feels like an actual person is looking at individual behavior, it's creepy (which is, of course, always a possibility, but plausible deniabilit…

> It seems like most people don't really care if they're being filmed, or if their data is being slurped up six ways from Sunday For the majority of people I don’t think it’s true that they don’t care, but rather that they don’t know, don’t understand the implications, or don’t have the luxury of being able to do anything about it. In the instances where I was able to have a longer discussion with someone to really e…

Or, they do know and they do care, but they're so exhausted by the hostile patterns of our industry that they've given up.
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