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1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

#31

I'm so continuously confused why Minecraft doesn't have a show-off mode where a team of people can build something, and then someone else can spectate it, without causing undue server load. I should be able to give you a URL to some location, and when you click it, it opens up Minecraft, streams the blocks, and you're viewing it. minecraft://server/loc?w=0&x=0&y=0&z=0 w is the overworld, nether, end, etc. And if you…

It's easy enough for a server which wants to provide some sort of "easy viewing cool builds" functionality to do it multiple ways such that something native would only be a minor convenience and many would still just use the more customized methods anyways.

2b2t wants to provide a certain anarchy server experience which would not align with that kind of functionality, spending quite a bit of effort in the opposite direction really, so this project is more about fighting to do cool things on the server than it is about dealing with Minecraft limitations.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

#33

I'm so continuously confused why Minecraft doesn't have a show-off mode where a team of people can build something, and then someone else can spectate it, without causing undue server load. I should be able to give you a URL to some location, and when you click it, it opens up Minecraft, streams the blocks, and you're viewing it. minecraft://server/loc?w=0&x=0&y=0&z=0 w is the overworld, nether, end, etc. And if you…

It's easy enough for a server which wants to provide some sort of "easy viewing cool builds" functionality to do it multiple ways such that something native would only be a minor convenience and many would still just use the more customized methods anyways. 2b2t wants to provide a certain anarchy server experience which would not align with that kind of functionality, spending quite a bit of effort in the opposite di…

Yes, the anarchy and inability to truly protect anything is part of the appeal of 2b2t.

There was an interesting base project wherein the true coordinates were only known to the top leaders. All other builders connected through a custom client that offset the coordinates to hide the true location. If anyone became untrusted, they were simply blocked from the client and could not expose the coordinates. There was care taken to ensure the area outside the proxy was never shown, block place directions were randomized to prevent reversing the proxy, etc.

The base apparently thrived for months or years before finally being discovered and destroyed.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

#34

For those who don't know: 2b2t is a famous minecraft server known for its true "anarchy" configuration. You can do absolutely anything on it. Modded client, x-raying, item duplication. There are no area protections. PvP enabled. It is difficult to leave spawn :)

It is also the oldest anarchy server in Minecraft

home to the dastardly popbob, minecraft's most notorious troll

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is also the oldest anarchy server in Minecraft

home to the dastardly popbob, minecraft's most notorious troll

And the server admin, Hausemaster

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

#36
post #4

2b2t is so interesting. It is a toxic place, yet you can find really nice things, builds, messages, ... It's fascinating.

My buddy and I used to plant shitloads of melon farms there. The idea was, anything could happen, but at least you won't starve.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

#38
post #32

Can someone please explain in layman's terms to me what this means? Background: Only heard the name of Minecraft.

This other comment ITT has a good explanation:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48181033

The TLDR is a Minecraft server with ""no"" rules, where hacked clients, item dupes, and griefing are allowed. Only thing that's really banned afaik are lag generators and things of that nature that explicitly stress the server and ruin the QoL for everyone.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

#39
post #26

With severe weaponized autism, the help of several people involved, thousands of dollars spent, and countless hours wasted, we present you the largest world download project ever Never underestimate the power of severe weaponized autism!

I have a theory that the modern world would not exist without it.

>Yeah and we'd be better off. The modern world is quantifiably worse than the world we had even 10 years ago. That includes everything in software development and computer science.

Rather than killing this comment, how about we discuss quantification? I actually feel this way too but do not talk about it too much and sort of boil it down to a combination of advancing in age + yelling at clouds and "Stop putting computers in all my stuff!".

Can we reliably quantify that "weaponized autism", i.e. the aggressive monetization of nerds by capital to squeeze profit out of every possible corner of society (as I interpret it in a broad sense), is making things worse. Is it damaging the economy for most people? Making people less happy? Decreasing net social mobility or discrimination? Lowering life expectancy?

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

#40
post #32

Can someone please explain in layman's terms to me what this means? Background: Only heard the name of Minecraft.

2b2t is anarchy server where every form of cheating and hacking is "allowed".

And thanks to that, people are extremely motivated to find various 0days in anything related to minecraft, to gain an advantage.

This server spawned some notorious black hats :)

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