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Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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One could reasonably have expected much worse than "just" automotive and energy intensive sectors in crisis in Germany. The Russian invasion of Ukraine. The Trump administration actively shrinking the economic cake worldwide. Its active economic and cultural warfare against Europe. Nothing to sneeze at. Germany and by extension the EU have shown remarkable resilience for now. The question what will happen next should…

You forgot about the energy crisis: Nord Stream for one.

Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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The article is low quality. It talks a bit about the problem, not about the cause and it does not help anyone. The example at the beginning seems to be a now classic "I have a degree in an area where supply greatly exceeds demand". There is demand, there is supply, but there is a misalignment of qualifications and interests. If "well-qualified people" means fresh graduates in domains with low demand, then the qualifi…

I dunno man, people are complaining about not being able to secure a vocational training position, especially as a foreigner. Maybe a bit of diversity and equality could help

A friend of mine went to Berlin to learn German. She's Spanish of Moroccan Berber origin... She said she encountered barely any native speakers, and many people tried to speak English to her instead. She ended up quitting as a result. I was in part of suburban Frankfurt am Main and had a similar experience. So depending on where you are, there is plenty of diversity. Like most larger European cities, Frankfurt and Berlin now lack sense of place while having a sense of anomie.

Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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One could reasonably have expected much worse than "just" automotive and energy intensive sectors in crisis in Germany. The Russian invasion of Ukraine. The Trump administration actively shrinking the economic cake worldwide. Its active economic and cultural warfare against Europe. Nothing to sneeze at. Germany and by extension the EU have shown remarkable resilience for now. The question what will happen next should…

You forgot about the energy crisis: Nord Stream for one.

That is just a side effect of Russia attacking Ukraine.

Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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And who are these people?

Indians. Well educated, hard working, and willing to put in 20 years of serfdom to get that green card. Even a 30% discount on wages is still a better quality of life than their alternatives. If they were granted proper work visas with portability then wages would go up. That's why Elon and co love H1Bs.

Germany can't do this because nobody wants to learn German + paid funny amounts compared to USA

Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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I am not so sure we really have or had both. Maybe for roles like electrician and tiler and such. But for roles like teachers, I feel it is not the case, or policy makers are extremely stupid here. The hurdles for someone to become a teacher without having studied that are still very high. It doesn't seem like policies a nation would implement, if they really wanted more teachers. For example you need to have 500h of…

> It doesn't seem like policies a nation would implement, if they really wanted more teachers. Aren't those hurdles put in by teachers' unions to ensure they maintain a leverage over their jobs market? Same is for doctors, notaries, etc in a lot of countries.

None of what he listed is some kind of outrageous demand. You can disagree about the "two subjects" thing and it would be valid disagreement, but hardly an outrageous one. A teacher teaching two subjects is not even some kind of German specific thing.

Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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The article is low quality. It talks a bit about the problem, not about the cause and it does not help anyone. The example at the beginning seems to be a now classic "I have a degree in an area where supply greatly exceeds demand". There is demand, there is supply, but there is a misalignment of qualifications and interests. If "well-qualified people" means fresh graduates in domains with low demand, then the qualifi…

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> Cut all welfare and government handouts, cut taxes on labor and on employment.

Eastern Europe has the former, and as for the latter entrepreneurs in the industry just don't pay their taxes - ask me how I know.

There's still a shortage.

Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot about the energy crisis: Nord Stream for one.

That is just a side effect of Russia attacking Ukraine.

That's the part which I don't understand: so what? Let them duke it out, why would you passively destroy your own country?
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