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America's Most-Spoken Languages After English and Spanish

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Re: America's Most-Spoken Languages After English and Spanish

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The three surprises for me: NV/Tagalog, AL/Korean, KY/German.

The first two are presumably recent immigration.

Kentucky in particular surprises me despite my German ancestors settling in Indiana during the 19th Century. I had assumed Kentucky had been English immigrants from colonial Virginia/Carolina.

Re: America's Most-Spoken Languages After English and Spanish

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the point is to give an idea of the approximate region that people come from, not to give a professionally accurate linguistic picture

Mandarin and Cantonese are distinct, mutually unintelligible languages that sound as different to each other as Spanish and French.

People often say Mandarin and Cantonese are like Spanish and Portuguese, but that undersells how different they are.

Your example of Spanish and French is more accurate -- same language family, but different grammar and vocabulary.

I offer German and Dutch as another example pair -- same language family as well, but different enough that no one will say "oh they're just different dialects". Dutch is an example of what happens when a Germanic language (Low Franconian) gets it's own state.

Re: America's Most-Spoken Languages After English and Spanish

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Very surprised to see German there. Any way that I can learn more about this? Does anyone happen to have sources or links?

https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/language...

Top languages E.g. Alabama: English - 94% Spanish - 3% Korean - 0.22% German - 0.18%

Re: America's Most-Spoken Languages After English and Spanish

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> Chinese (Mandarin/Cantonese) This is enough to discredit the whole infographic in my eyes. No matter what the CPC or anybody else may claim, these are distinct languages, and not dialects. Not only that, but in some of these places a lot of Chinese speak other regional Chinese languages, such as Fuzhounese, rather than Mandarin or Cantonese. (I remember a blog from twenty or so years ago by a NYC Chinatown native w…

Sure. But blame the U.S. Census: the languages tracked are "Chinese", "Mandarin Chinese", and "Yue Chinese". Can't map the data they don't have.

Re: America's Most-Spoken Languages After English and Spanish

#39
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mandarin and Cantonese are distinct, mutually unintelligible languages that sound as different to each other as Spanish and French.

it's about cultural relatedness from a Western centric pov, not language

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