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Re: Meta deletes popular 1M follower account after Kuwaiti request

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Post by toasty228 »

gatlin wrote: post #28
toasty228 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the US as a supposed bastion of free speech Only americans believe that, this is almost as dumb as when they try to use dollars in Europe, "but it is valid tender I tell you!" or when they believe their TSA precheck works in China

Do Americans often try to use dollars in Europe?

They also try to drive to canada with their guns, and believe they can't be "foreigners" because they're american. 30% of americans are functionally illiterate, no surprise really.

https://immigration.ca/americans-frequently-caught-bringing-...

Re: Meta deletes popular 1M follower account after Kuwaiti request

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Post by hankerapp »

Tyrubias wrote: post #13

In a sane world, the US as a supposed bastion of free speech and personal liberties would enact legislation that requires companies to provide a specific, articulable reason for suspending accounts due to rules violations and offer everyone the chance to appeal. That would serve as a counterbalance to more authoritarian regimes insisting companies like Meta censor people, even if the US can’t guarantee it for people…

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Re: Meta deletes popular 1M follower account after Kuwaiti request

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Post by ergocoder »

mw67 wrote: post #3

Crazy that these mega corporations still bow to the requests of countries. Would they do the same of any important actor requesting censorship? like if Elon or Bezos make a request, they'd get ignored, even though they're more powerful than Kuwait.

It's crazy that mega corporations follow the country's regulations.

Bad stuff. I know.

Re: Meta deletes popular 1M follower account after Kuwaiti request

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Post by OtomotO »

Tyrubias wrote: post #13

In a sane world, the US as a supposed bastion of free speech and personal liberties would enact legislation that requires companies to provide a specific, articulable reason for suspending accounts due to rules violations and offer everyone the chance to appeal. That would serve as a counterbalance to more authoritarian regimes insisting companies like Meta censor people, even if the US can’t guarantee it for people…

The US are an oligarchy with the PR department being instructed to claim they are thr bastion of free speech though, so ex falso quodlibet.

Re: Meta deletes popular 1M follower account after Kuwaiti request

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Post by like_any_other »

KaiserPro wrote: post #21
Tyrubias wrote: post #13

In a sane world, the US as a supposed bastion of free speech and personal liberties would enact legislation that requires companies to provide a specific, articulable reason for suspending accounts due to rules violations and offer everyone the chance to appeal. That would serve as a counterbalance to more authoritarian regimes insisting companies like Meta censor people, even if the US can’t guarantee it for people…

> requires companies to provide a specific, articulable reason for suspending accounts wouldn't that violate free speech though? forcing a company to keep something up/take something down is entirely up to them no?

Don't conflate the broad concept of free speech, with the specific attempt at its defense that is the 1st amendment of the US constitution.

Giant unaccountable companies privatizing the public square harms free speech. Forcing them to at least reveal why something was censored would help free speech more than it would harm it. Unless you subscribe to the myopic legalistic 1st amendment position that "free speech" is maximized when companies can act with the least restrictions, no matter how unable to speak or be heard that makes individuals, so long as it wasn't the government that silenced them.

Re: Meta deletes popular 1M follower account after Kuwaiti request

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Post by edent »

gatlin wrote: post #28
toasty228 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the US as a supposed bastion of free speech Only americans believe that, this is almost as dumb as when they try to use dollars in Europe, "but it is valid tender I tell you!" or when they believe their TSA precheck works in China

Do Americans often try to use dollars in Europe?

Yes.

Everyone has a story about being stuck behind an irate American who can't understand why their currency isn't accepted abroad.

I've seen it in the UK - when a tourist tried to leave a tip in dollars for a bemused waiter.

Re: Meta deletes popular 1M follower account after Kuwaiti request

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Post by benoau »

Tyrubias wrote: post #13

In a sane world, the US as a supposed bastion of free speech and personal liberties would enact legislation that requires companies to provide a specific, articulable reason for suspending accounts due to rules violations and offer everyone the chance to appeal. That would serve as a counterbalance to more authoritarian regimes insisting companies like Meta censor people, even if the US can’t guarantee it for people…

Unfortunately we live in a world where any attempt to regulate "big tech" is met by massive campaigns to prevent it.

Re: Meta deletes popular 1M follower account after Kuwaiti request

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Post by [deleted] »

toasty228 wrote: post #27
Tyrubias wrote: post #13

In a sane world, the US as a supposed bastion of free speech and personal liberties would enact legislation that requires companies to provide a specific, articulable reason for suspending accounts due to rules violations and offer everyone the chance to appeal. That would serve as a counterbalance to more authoritarian regimes insisting companies like Meta censor people, even if the US can’t guarantee it for people…

> the US as a supposed bastion of free speech Only americans believe that, this is almost as dumb as when they try to use dollars in Europe, "but it is valid tender I tell you!" or when they believe their TSA precheck works in China

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Re: Meta deletes popular 1M follower account after Kuwaiti request

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Post by tamimio »

OtomotO wrote: post #34
Tyrubias wrote: post #13

In a sane world, the US as a supposed bastion of free speech and personal liberties would enact legislation that requires companies to provide a specific, articulable reason for suspending accounts due to rules violations and offer everyone the chance to appeal. That would serve as a counterbalance to more authoritarian regimes insisting companies like Meta censor people, even if the US can’t guarantee it for people…

The US are an oligarchy with the PR department being instructed to claim they are thr bastion of free speech though, so ex falso quodlibet.

Oligarchy and oligopoly as well.
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