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At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

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Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#31

This website and article promote the destruction of property. If you disagree with something, you can engage civily, encourage people to vote with you, run for elections. Violence is not the answer.

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Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#32

This website and article promote the destruction of property. If you disagree with something, you can engage civily, encourage people to vote with you, run for elections. Violence is not the answer.

What is the civil way of installing mass surveillance?

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#33

This website and article promote the destruction of property. If you disagree with something, you can engage civily, encourage people to vote with you, run for elections. Violence is not the answer.

Hi. The mayor of Denver pushed through flock cameras despite them being unpopular and not even getting enough votes to buy them. He got them to change the price enough that he didn't need the votes to get them installed.

How do you have a civil society when the people in power cheat?

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#34
not sure why people are bothering with destruction, just drive around and shut them down wirelessly.

some newer models require a button to be pressed for them to start the AP, but still leaves them vulnerable to attacks with a long stick and doesn't draw any attention while hundreds of cameras suddenly stop working, making the city government think they're unreliable.

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#35

not sure why people are bothering with destruction, just drive around and shut them down wirelessly. some newer models require a button to be pressed for them to start the AP, but still leaves them vulnerable to attacks with a long stick and doesn't draw any attention while hundreds of cameras suddenly stop working, making the city government think they're unreliable.

> not sure why people are bothering with destruction, just drive around and shut them down wirelessly.

The article suggests that some of the cameras are smashed and left in highly visible places to "send a message".

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#36

Eventually toll cameras and a consortium of private businesses will have this tech and then game over. Better to use this energy and legislate the behavior you want. Never let the enemy decide the terms.

There seems to be enough energy for both?

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#37

Eventually toll cameras and a consortium of private businesses will have this tech and then game over. Better to use this energy and legislate the behavior you want. Never let the enemy decide the terms.

Flock already licenses their data to anyone who pays, right?

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From TFA: > Reddit threads show near-universal support. If your barometer for actual support is Reddit sentiment, I've got news for you...

9 out if 10 paid astroturfers and bot accounts agree with me!

Trying to imagine who would be paying for bots to support killing flock cameras. Who would profit from that? Seems more likely to go the other way.

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#40

Eventually toll cameras and a consortium of private businesses will have this tech and then game over. Better to use this energy and legislate the behavior you want. Never let the enemy decide the terms.

There seems to be enough energy for both?

The irony is destruction of private property will only justify the very surveillance one is trying to avoid. Would you agree ring cameras should be destroyed too? The police can use their footage. In practice they are similar to flock.
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