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OpenClaw Creator Spent $1.3M on OpenAI Tokens in 30 Days

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Re: OpenClaw Creator Spent $1.3M on OpenAI Tokens in 30 Days

#31
The mentioned menu bar app is a MITM (man in the middle) and rightly discloses that it gets all your session creds and uses them, along with keychain and full disk access:

Privacy: Reuses existing provider sessions — OAuth, device flow, API keys, browser cookies, local files — so no passwords are stored.

macOS permissions: Full Disk Access for Safari cookies, Keychain access for cookie decryption and OAuth flows...

It's excellent this is disclosed as a reminder of how things work and the tradeoffs you're making to use it.

Re: OpenClaw Creator Spent $1.3M on OpenAI Tokens in 30 Days

#32
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And was he 5x more productive in those 30d than a years worth of a dev making 200k/yr? Doubtful lol, dudes killing the environment just for fun at this point.

If you review the openclaw release schedule and code output you will see that yes, he was. I’m not saying you’ll like what you see, but the openclaw release schedule is well faster than human ability to assess it.

With a lot of these AI tools yea, they release very often. But half the features they add aren't even that useful. They just add shit because they can and they introduce bugs and change behaviour all the time.

Opencode has the same problems. They often do multiple releases of that app a day, yet within the span of a week or two I have had to update my config because some random change has altered the behaviour and my permissions broke. Or I've noticed the way the app renders is suddenly different.

Yet, my day to day usage has barely changed since the version I installed last year. It's like everything changes but nothing changes.

Re: OpenClaw Creator Spent $1.3M on OpenAI Tokens in 30 Days

#35
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It's a very peculiar way to flex.

I work at a bigtech and we’re being measured on how many tokens we consume.

We know it’s totally stupid, but unfortunately tokenmaxxing is real. I know our management line isn’t that dumb, but this is what you get when the business is selling it.

Re: OpenClaw Creator Spent $1.3M on OpenAI Tokens in 30 Days

#38
post #5

And was he 5x more productive in those 30d than a years worth of a dev making 200k/yr? Doubtful lol, dudes killing the environment just for fun at this point.

If you review the openclaw release schedule and code output you will see that yes, he was. I’m not saying you’ll like what you see, but the openclaw release schedule is well faster than human ability to assess it.

> the openclaw release schedule is well faster than human ability to assess it.

That doesn't sound very positive to me...

Re: OpenClaw Creator Spent $1.3M on OpenAI Tokens in 30 Days

#40
Nobody here talking about what this represents for demand on these models, if these numbers aren’t made up.

One person using 600B tokens in a month. The most I’ve hit is around 500M tokens and I thought that was a huge amount.

We’re going to have some major compute shortages for a while

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