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AI is wiping out entry-level jobs

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Re: AI is wiping out entry-level jobs

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Post by kuerbel »

rayiner wrote: post #11
kuerbel wrote: post #10

"At its core, the goal of education is to prepare individuals for employment and advancement" No. It should help a person develop into a free, thoughtful, well-rounded human being. Training narrowly for current market demands can become obsolete quickly. The question should not be: Should education have economic value? But rather: Should economic value be the highest or only value of education? Of course, engineering…

> a free, thoughtful, well-rounded human being What do these words even mean, and why should taxpayers pay for that? Is there any institution today that teaches you to be a “well-rounded human being?” Do students graduate being able to hunt for food, grow crops, or build a house? There might be great value in whatever type of “education” you’re talking about. But “education” as a public, taxpayer supported activity i…

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Re: AI is wiping out entry-level jobs

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Post by maplethorpe »

rayiner wrote: post #11
kuerbel wrote: post #10

"At its core, the goal of education is to prepare individuals for employment and advancement" No. It should help a person develop into a free, thoughtful, well-rounded human being. Training narrowly for current market demands can become obsolete quickly. The question should not be: Should education have economic value? But rather: Should economic value be the highest or only value of education? Of course, engineering…

> a free, thoughtful, well-rounded human being What do these words even mean, and why should taxpayers pay for that? Is there any institution today that teaches you to be a “well-rounded human being?” Do students graduate being able to hunt for food, grow crops, or build a house? There might be great value in whatever type of “education” you’re talking about. But “education” as a public, taxpayer supported activity i…

Think about it on a micro level. Do you work better when your coworkers are thoughtful, or when they're thoughtless?

Now multiply that by a billion, and that's why it's good for the economy.

Re: AI is wiping out entry-level jobs

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Post by whobre »

kuerbel wrote: post #10

"At its core, the goal of education is to prepare individuals for employment and advancement" No. It should help a person develop into a free, thoughtful, well-rounded human being. Training narrowly for current market demands can become obsolete quickly. The question should not be: Should education have economic value? But rather: Should economic value be the highest or only value of education? Of course, engineering…

Sorry, but that’s some ivory tower wishful thinking.

Re: AI is wiping out entry-level jobs

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Post by lorecore »

jmyeet wrote: post #7

We've been through this before. The GFC in 2008 wiped out entry-level jobs for millenials who did everything "right" (or, at least, what they were told to do) by going to college and accumulating student debt [1]. Those graduates ended up doing lower-paid and often non-career jobs like service works. The cliche in the early 2010s was college grads being baristas for a reason. Those jobs never came back. And it's esse…

I don’t think it was a key factor in the 2016 election. It’s mostly older people (older than millennials in 2016) who vote.

Re: AI is wiping out entry-level jobs

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Post by deltarholamda »

rayiner wrote: post #11
kuerbel wrote: post #10

"At its core, the goal of education is to prepare individuals for employment and advancement" No. It should help a person develop into a free, thoughtful, well-rounded human being. Training narrowly for current market demands can become obsolete quickly. The question should not be: Should education have economic value? But rather: Should economic value be the highest or only value of education? Of course, engineering…

> a free, thoughtful, well-rounded human being What do these words even mean, and why should taxpayers pay for that? Is there any institution today that teaches you to be a “well-rounded human being?” Do students graduate being able to hunt for food, grow crops, or build a house? There might be great value in whatever type of “education” you’re talking about. But “education” as a public, taxpayer supported activity i…

>But “education” as a public, taxpayer supported activity is about the economy

It sounds harsh and maybe a bit gauche, but it's true. A literate and numerate citizenry helps the nation advance. That's the selling point for widespread public education. Airy ideals sound great, but that's also how ideology slides into the public school.

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Post by rho_soul_kg_m3 »

jmyeet wrote: post #7

We've been through this before. The GFC in 2008 wiped out entry-level jobs for millenials who did everything "right" (or, at least, what they were told to do) by going to college and accumulating student debt [1]. Those graduates ended up doing lower-paid and often non-career jobs like service works. The cliche in the early 2010s was college grads being baristas for a reason. Those jobs never came back. And it's esse…

Not a problem, LLMs can be very efficient at controlling social unrest.

Re: AI is wiping out entry-level jobs

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Post by legitster »

kuerbel wrote: post #10

"At its core, the goal of education is to prepare individuals for employment and advancement" No. It should help a person develop into a free, thoughtful, well-rounded human being. Training narrowly for current market demands can become obsolete quickly. The question should not be: Should education have economic value? But rather: Should economic value be the highest or only value of education? Of course, engineering…

> No. It should help a person develop into a free, thoughtful, well-rounded human being.

This is the goal of a primary education.

But society need us to hand down collective knowledge. Economic output is one way to measure that. But more generally, if everyone only consumed education for their personal edification, we'd lose the ability to financially support education in the first place.

Re: AI is wiping out entry-level jobs

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Post by wordsinaline »

jmyeet wrote: post #7

We've been through this before. The GFC in 2008 wiped out entry-level jobs for millenials who did everything "right" (or, at least, what they were told to do) by going to college and accumulating student debt [1]. Those graduates ended up doing lower-paid and often non-career jobs like service works. The cliche in the early 2010s was college grads being baristas for a reason. Those jobs never came back. And it's esse…

GFC? Gordon Food Service?
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