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A desire for a loud car correlates with higher scores on psychopathy and sadism

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Re: A desire for a loud car correlates with higher scores on psychopathy and sadism

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Post by pseudohadamard »

ano-ther wrote: post #9
lambdaone wrote: post #5

There is a medical treatise, "On Assholes", just waiting to be written here, in much the same way that Harry G. Frankfurt introduced us to the technical academic concept of 'bullshit' in his book "On Bullshit".

Not medical, but there is a book: https://www.onassholes.com/

While looking for that in the local libraries I saw there's an update? variant? "Assholes: A theory of Donald Trump". Looks to be mostly the same book, just with Trump's face added to the cover. There's also quite a lot of other books about dealing with assholes. "I knew it! I'm surrounded by (books about) assholes!".

Re: A desire for a loud car correlates with higher scores on psychopathy and sadism

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mianos wrote: post #20
Animats wrote: post #6

Participants were 529 (289 men, 234 women, and 6 identified as other) undergraduate business students with a mean age of 18.14 years (SD = 1.19, range 16 to 37). Sigh. A sample of convenience. Psychology remains the study of undergraduates. If they wanted real answers, they'd go to bike events.

As a biker, there is sure a lot of peer pressure to have a louder bike. My s1k has the factory msport straight through akro muffler and a valve system that opens the larger exit, also bypassing the baffles in the 'lunchbox' underneath, at 7k. Meaning it's very quiet until it's being asked to go very fast. Replacing the cats and lunchbox with headers gives under 1hp on a 220hp bike. But, every meetup, multiple people…

> As a biker, there is sure a lot of peer pressure to have a louder bike.

I'm amused by vehicles which are very noisy when barely doing anything. Really, almost all cars today have more acceleration than can be used outside racing. Most SUVs and pickup trucks today have better 0-60 times than 1960s muscle cars.

In normal operation today, the power train is not working very hard. Many pickup trucks now have fake engine noise in the cabin generated by the audio system. Not just electrics; gas engine vehicles too. Ford has been doing this since 2015, and most customers do not know it.

Re: A desire for a loud car correlates with higher scores on psychopathy and sadism

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Post by whackernews »

mrandish wrote: post #27

I'm not a car guy, so I used to think such ear-damaging decibels were necessary for performance but have since learned it's not required even for ultra-high performance road cars that can go >200 mph. While a 12 cylinder Lamborghini Aventador is louder than a Hyundai, when both are idling at a stop light, it's actually barely louder from 100 feet away. And yet people with real supercars almost never modify them to be…

The only thing I can really think of is a turbo Anti Lag System that you can get in top-end consumer cars like Mercedes AMGs. It’s that popping you hear when coming off the throttle, you’ll also hear it in rally cars. The funny thing is, the same popping can happen with any car if the timing is off so you sometimes get kids driving around with misfiring engines cause it “sounds cool” even though their car might not even have a turbo fan! It’s one of those things that if they were actually passionate about these machines they’d know they look like idiots, but they’re not so they do.

Re: A desire for a loud car correlates with higher scores on psychopathy and sadism

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Post by zthrowaway »

mianos wrote: post #20
Animats wrote: post #6

Participants were 529 (289 men, 234 women, and 6 identified as other) undergraduate business students with a mean age of 18.14 years (SD = 1.19, range 16 to 37). Sigh. A sample of convenience. Psychology remains the study of undergraduates. If they wanted real answers, they'd go to bike events.

As a biker, there is sure a lot of peer pressure to have a louder bike. My s1k has the factory msport straight through akro muffler and a valve system that opens the larger exit, also bypassing the baffles in the 'lunchbox' underneath, at 7k. Meaning it's very quiet until it's being asked to go very fast. Replacing the cats and lunchbox with headers gives under 1hp on a 220hp bike. But, every meetup, multiple people…

I’m a classic car owner, I get the same thing from some people in that scene. I have kept my car exhaust at stock specs and it’s just the right level of loud for what the car is. IMO the cars should be as loud as how powerful they are. You can’t have a 455+ ci engine and expect it to be quiet, and the smaller the exhaust the harder it is for the engine to breathe. It’s a balance that has to be done right.

Re: A desire for a loud car correlates with higher scores on psychopathy and sadism

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Post by zthrowaway »

tdeck wrote: post #29
mianos wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a biker, there is sure a lot of peer pressure to have a louder bike. My s1k has the factory msport straight through akro muffler and a valve system that opens the larger exit, also bypassing the baffles in the 'lunchbox' underneath, at 7k. Meaning it's very quiet until it's being asked to go very fast. Replacing the cats and lunchbox with headers gives under 1hp on a 220hp bike. But, every meetup, multiple people…

I guess this explains why in Japan very few of the motorcycles are loud. It's something I was surprised by when moving here from the US. It seems like in the US most (or perhaps many more) riders are being deliberately antisocial?

A lot of the sports bikes I see around my area are operated by 18 year olds. Who at 18 in this country are being perfectly upstanding members of society? There’s always some stupidity in that phase of life. I wouldn’t put too much thought into it.
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