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California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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I'm a bit perplexed on this one-- Yes, we refine our own blend of gasoline, but it's based on market oil -- nothing about the war we started with Iran impacts our domestic refining capability.

Also, oil takes longer to get from Iran to the west coast than to the east coast. Shouldn't the east coast be the first to notice decreased shipments, because the west coast essentially has a stock still in transit for longer?

EDIT: Nevermind, now I see that 25% of CA gas is refined overseas.

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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post #23

6 weeks are standard. If you want to keep it for longer it needs additives which increase price. Noone does that usually.

Yeah, seems like a standard supply level to me. "California’s inventory has averaged just over 20 days of supply over the last five years (2019–23), compared with the U.S. average of 21.6 days." https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=63944

I think they mean that it's 4-6 weeks until they hit zero, accounting both for stored products and the current rate of production/imports.

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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post #31

I'm a bit perplexed on this one-- Yes, we refine our own blend of gasoline, but it's based on market oil -- nothing about the war we started with Iran impacts our domestic refining capability. Also, oil takes longer to get from Iran to the west coast than to the east coast. Shouldn't the east coast be the first to notice decreased shipments, because the west coast essentially has a stock still in transit for longer?…

CA’s requirement that it gets its own blend of gas is combined with how its openly hostile towards its ever decreasing refineries and that it is impossible for a new refinery to ever open makes it’s supplies absurdly limited

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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I’m surprised that only “18.9% of new car sales” in California are electric [1]. [1] https://www.energy.ca.gov/news/2026-01/california-surpasses-...

Other countries have $15k new electric city cars for sale. The US doesn't. Our domestic car manufacturers are either uninterested or unable to make them, and import bans are in place on foreign cars that meet that price point.

Also our infra not being 240v is hurting us. The rest of the world can just plug in overnight to any regular outlet and it is good enough for almost any commute.

My EV on a 120v outlet I can manage, but it'd be hard with a second EV.

The lack of ecosystem for good electric scooters is also sad. The weather in much of cali is perfect for it. Last time I went back to China the streets were so quiet as all the electric scooters drove by. An incredible change for the better.

I remember stepping into an apartment parking garage that was filled with scooter charging spaces, like hundreds of them. It was crazy.

Then I went to Taiwan and while walking around I barely talk over the noise from all the gas mopeds.

I joked that the streets in China and quiet and the sidewalks noisy, and the streets of Taiwan are noisy and the sidewalks are quiet.

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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> The President isn't to blame. I mean, there's a lot of blame to go around, but tearing up a working deal that gave us unprecedented, multilateral access to Iran's nuclear facilities, and then later jumping into a war of choice with no clear objectives and seemingly being surprised by the most obvious geopoltical realities that people with any shred of a clue have been talking about for DECADES would seem to have at…

Yeah but he wouldn't have been in the position to do any of that if the people who funded his campaign like the Adelsons, Kushners, Musk, Linda McMahon, Lutnick and so forth didn't contribute millions to his campaign and leverage whatever other resources they have to promote him.

And they in turn couldn't do any of that if the teams of professionals from lawyers, accountants to engineers didn't help them acquire and use those resources.

Just like violent crime is overwhelmingly perpetuated by a handful of repeat offenders we see the same pattern in white collar crime. A handful of white collar criminals cause damage to American society that cascades through the world resulting in food and fuel shortages that we're talking about.

I get that it's really hard but you have to view this dispassionately and from a systems thinking perspective. The professionals and oligarchs are responsible for the mad king scenario that we're all living through right now. They're responsible for the social decay that affects us daily.

And it's just going to keep getting worse and worse once the mad king eventually goes the way all mad kings do.

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

#39

I’m surprised that only “18.9% of new car sales” in California are electric [1]. [1] https://www.energy.ca.gov/news/2026-01/california-surpasses-...

That number you quote was from the fourth quarter of 2025. EV tax benefits expired in the third quarter of 2025. People who were on the fence all bought during the third quarter. The market share was 29.1%.

https://cleantechnica.com/2025/10/13/california-reaches-29-1...

Re: California leaders report four to six weeks worth of gasoline and diesel supply

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post #5

the entire economy of California being dependent on how Iran is feeling on a given day is crazy work

The US is an exporter of oil, so no US state will run out. However, you do pay the market price.

CA mandates its own blend which it is dependent on imports for
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