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How David Sacks crashed and burned in the White House

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Re: How David Sacks crashed and burned in the White House

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Post by irishcoffee »

austin-cheney wrote: post #21
paulsutter wrote: post #4

Mythos. It's all about Mythos. Once they realized that DoW had locked themselves out of Mythos because of their beef with Anthropic, Trump invited Anthropic to the White House, and in that meeting they convinced Trump that Mythos is a big deal, and that China is distilling their models. Excited to have a powerful tool, now they are saying it should be used by Government agencies first, and therefore, regulation. Key…

> when defense types hear something is DANGEROUS, they want more of it I have been doing defense work for almost 30 years and in my experience that is the opposite of true.

The way this forum views the DoD and contracting makes me chuckle on a weekly basis.

Re: How David Sacks crashed and burned in the White House

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Post by malcolmgreaves »

paulsutter wrote: post #4

Mythos. It's all about Mythos. Once they realized that DoW had locked themselves out of Mythos because of their beef with Anthropic, Trump invited Anthropic to the White House, and in that meeting they convinced Trump that Mythos is a big deal, and that China is distilling their models. Excited to have a powerful tool, now they are saying it should be used by Government agencies first, and therefore, regulation. Key…

*DoD, don’t use the regime’s illegitimate rebrand.

Re: How David Sacks crashed and burned in the White House

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Post by johndhi »

I guess I'm the lone person who likes Sacks here.

I do think it's probably true that his influence flagged after Mythos. But he'd already been moved to the science board when that dropped.

It's very over stated and looking to act like he was fired, which he wasn't.

An article about a person 'falling out of favor' is silly but I guess that's the vibe of the administration so fair enough.

Re: How David Sacks crashed and burned in the White House

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Post by skissane »

bigyabai wrote: post #16
skissane wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to distinguish between political rhetoric (“woke”) and the substance of the dispute The substance: traditionally, defense contracts don’t have clauses in them limiting what the military can do with the acquired technology. If Boeing or Lockheed Martin or Northrop Grumann sell a missile system to the Pentagon, they don’t try to impose contractual limits on who the Pentagon can fire the missiles at. Now, for s…

> rather than some immediate plan to do things the contract prohibits. It's not like any legally questionable kidnappings or bombing campaigns were being planned at the time, right?

Those acts are allowed by Anthropic’s terms-they aren’t domestic mass surveillance, and (to the best of my knowledge) any AI targeting decisions were approved by a human in the loop.

Anthropic’s terms weren’t “don’t do anything illegal” they were “here are two highly specific things which you aren’t allowed to, whether they are legal or not”

Re: How David Sacks crashed and burned in the White House

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Post by danscan »

FridayoLeary wrote: post #3

I'm struck by the wild recklessness and unrestrained power of these administration employees. Musk is the most prominent example. I've never even heard of Sacks until now. If it's any consolation these guys crashing and burning seems to be the rule. Trump likes results and hates headaches. One exception is Jared Isaacman the billionaire head of NASA who experienced a bit of a roller coaster. Unlike the previous 2 i t…

> I've never even heard of Sacks until now

Bless your soul

Re: How David Sacks crashed and burned in the White House

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Post by arjie »

It is fascinating that technologists thought they'd use demagogues as a vehicle for change that they would like to see, but demagogues used technologists as a vehicle for their desired change. In the end, the more government-savvy operators triumphed and the rest sort of flamed out. I'm actually quite surprised Elon Musk got whacked. With his companies's success ultimately relying on varying degrees of how well he used US Government policy I expected him to be quite skilled at navigating it behind the scenes. After all, Tesla made it through tough times using green credits, and SpaceX can fly because he got Starlink protected under the DoD umbrella. So there's some degree of savvy there.

I suppose you have to know when you're Lee Iacocca and when you're Henry Ford II. No matter what you do, one's in the family, and the other isn't, so if you're not in the family you'd better know that.

I was quite eager to see if the chaos of this admin would cause accidental positive change. Submitted a petition via deregulation.gov to reduce the fund requirements for nuclear power plants. Who knows, might have worked. Didn't, but might've! Ah well, 3 more years and then we're clear.

Re: How David Sacks crashed and burned in the White House

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Post by gmueckl »

OK, so they might want to review AI models - for what exactly? Is it to make sure that they have been properly lobotomized to become incapable of software security work? Is it to make sure that they only give true and factually accurate information (especially at a time where clearly only the government disseminates facts and truths to the public)? A properly compensated and sufficiently eloquent spin doctor can reframe almost anything as "security".

Given the erratic course of the current US administration, I have absolutely no idea what to actually expect here.

Re: How David Sacks crashed and burned in the White House

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

SwellJoe wrote: post #28

Media always covers this administration as though it is normal, and making decisions based on rational policy analysis. Which never makes any sense, because that's not how this White House makes decisions. Trump wants more bribes, and the AI industry has all the money right now. So, he reckons he's owed a cut. The thing about a gangster with a protection racket is they're never going to stop. You pay them once, that…

The AI alas is part of reality, is programmed to assess truth (except Grok).

There is no greater offense to this administration. This isn't just the usual grift and fury: this is personal, that the AI is allowed to say words that are not approved, not in favor of whatever the whim of the day is.

By the loose alliances of world corrupting sinister forces focused on destruction of reality. That seeks Putinlandia Adam Curtis style HyperNormalization destruction of reality, to leave us all unmoored and guessing. That wants us weak believing in nothing.

This isn't just an alt-reality twist that forces like RFK are trying to create: it's an anti-reality. Something inherently against meaning itself.

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