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GLM-5V-Turbo: Toward a Native Foundation Model for Multimodal Agents

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Re: GLM-5V-Turbo: Toward a Native Foundation Model for Multimodal Agents

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z.ai will use quantized models in off hours. Buyer beware

I was one of the people just absolutely in misery when the GLM-5.1 model dropped. It wasn't quantized, I don't think, but it had some very gnarly issues where it would hit a context size, then seemingly try to quantize, and fall apart. It was unusable. It went from being an excellent model all the way to 200k, to being only 60k before it couldn't write in sentances and definitely couldn't tool call, to being 100k, to 120k. It was terrible, and I was so sad they had made my subscription so much worse, it felt like. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47677853

But very shortly after this submission/release of 5.1, after a mass pouring out of sadnesses, they fixed it. Things have been back to absolutely amazing. I joined right before 4.7, and 4.7 was incredible. 5.0 was fantastic. 5.1 has been a dream. GPT still catches a lot of stuff and is smarter, but man, GLM-5.1 is so capable, and it's frankly often a better writer, often better understands and captures purpose and notion, where-as GPT often feels dry and focused on narrow technicals. I really appreciate GLM-5.1.

And I'm really glad Z.ai fixed the absurd damage they had in their systems. I do suspect they were trying to dynamically quantize as the context window grew, or some such trickery. It was not working at all, but somehow it tooks months to fix.

Re: GLM-5V-Turbo: Toward a Native Foundation Model for Multimodal Agents

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have proof for this?

No they don't it's just a smear campaign because the US tech companys are freaking out

There are similar unfounded complaints about US companies. It's just what happens with a product that doesn't work 100% of the time even under ideal conditions. Some people are bound to get unlucky but blame it on deliberate action rather than random chance.

Re: GLM-5V-Turbo: Toward a Native Foundation Model for Multimodal Agents

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I switched from kimi to GLM for claws. I found it tends to be a stronger debugger when it comes to fixing openclaw issues with bash, being more thorough in finding the right root cause. Kimi tended to confidently misdiagnose. It's also much faster. The only downside is that it seems to cost an order of magnitude more than kimi.

Re: GLM-5V-Turbo: Toward a Native Foundation Model for Multimodal Agents

#35
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have proof for this?

No they don't it's just a smear campaign because the US tech companys are freaking out

This is funny because it is an unfounded claim replying to the request for proof.

I can show you my git tree where GLM4.5 deleted my whole test suite and my session docs where it invented new github cli commands. Are you willing to show us where you saw me taking money from any US tech company?

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