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Re: Humanoid Robot Actuators

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post #27

This is AI slop and the article contains some of the worst illustrations I have ever seen. Most do not make any sense mechanically. Here are the worst ones: - The "orbiting threaded rollers" in figure 6 are not meshing with anything (not that they could, since they are orientated in the wrong direction). - The ball of the ball screw in figure 7 deforms the screw and the roller screw "meshes" with a flat surface. - Th…

The YouTube channel linked is more of the same. Just the absolute worst slop

Re: Humanoid Robot Actuators

#32
post #28
post #27

This is AI slop and the article contains some of the worst illustrations I have ever seen. Most do not make any sense mechanically. Here are the worst ones: - The "orbiting threaded rollers" in figure 6 are not meshing with anything (not that they could, since they are orientated in the wrong direction). - The ball of the ball screw in figure 7 deforms the screw and the roller screw "meshes" with a flat surface. - Th…

Is it? Now I feel bad for having posted it. I mean, I know some stuff but not enough to judge over all the content in this article. It's unfortunate but from glancing over I thought it was a comprehensive and useful resource. I guess I will just give up on the Internet or something like that.

« Rotary Actuators (The "Reflected Inertia" Trap) », « Quasi-Direct Drive (QDD) — The "Cheetah" Approach «

The pattern ‘something — The « metaphor » ‘ screams Gemini. Gemini seem completely unable to generate a section title that doesn’t follow this annoying pattern.

Re: Humanoid Robot Actuators

#33
post #30
post #27

This is AI slop and the article contains some of the worst illustrations I have ever seen. Most do not make any sense mechanically. Here are the worst ones: - The "orbiting threaded rollers" in figure 6 are not meshing with anything (not that they could, since they are orientated in the wrong direction). - The ball of the ball screw in figure 7 deforms the screw and the roller screw "meshes" with a flat surface. - Th…

- Figure 3 has "elboly actuators" for the elbow joints (zero hits on Google for the term). Could it be just the illustrations? I'm not knowledgeable enough to judge the text contents.

Now that you mention it ... apart from the typo the style of the illustration has all marks of AI.

Re: Humanoid Robot Actuators

#34
post #27

This is AI slop and the article contains some of the worst illustrations I have ever seen. Most do not make any sense mechanically. Here are the worst ones: - The "orbiting threaded rollers" in figure 6 are not meshing with anything (not that they could, since they are orientated in the wrong direction). - The ball of the ball screw in figure 7 deforms the screw and the roller screw "meshes" with a flat surface. - Th…

> - The ball of the ball screw in figure 7 deforms the screw and the roller screw "meshes" with a flat surface.

Really, it is hilarious. This will teach me a lesson or two.

Re: Humanoid Robot Actuators

#35
How can we trust this article or the company if the writer/so-called chief engineer decides to hide himself behind an AI avatar?

From what I can understand this is the Robbie Dickson in question: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lessons-from-a-serial-ent_b_9...

Nobody has a problem with companies using AI to edit articles, create images. But when even the writer is an AI persona, the trust factor gets destroyed.

Re: Humanoid Robot Actuators

#36
post #10

I simply do not understand why you would ever prefer a fully humanoid robot as opposed to a humanoid torso on some other locomotion system.

There are a few of these being sold as products: AGIBOT has some models like that (eg https://www.agibot.com/products/A2_W). One argument that could be made for legged robots is that these wheeled ones can only work in wheelchair-accessible spaces. Legged robots can also balance themselves dynamically: a wheeled robot may tip over if anything violates its static balance, eg. carrying a load high up and going through a steep incline, though I guess having the torso be tiltable as in https://www.agibot.com/products/G2 addresses that.

Legged robots overall have more implementation complexity, spend energy just to idle standing up, but can go over much more varied terrain provided the controller is good enough. There are ways to adapt wheeled bases to different terrains (eg. larger wheels, whegs, RHex, rocker-bogies) but we know how to use legs to locomote over many terrains from personal experience, while the perfect wheeled/non-legged locomotion system perhaps remains to be designed.

There's also the way robotics is going toward data-driven methods, which in some forms (ie. imitation learning) require human teleoperation data. Here having the robot mimic the human form makes the mapping from human joints to robot joints easier (compared to other morphologies where you'd need to figure out how to best approximate a human motion with the joints/joint limits your robot has, though this is not impossible).

Re: Humanoid Robot Actuators

#37
Asking: As gpugreg remarked[0], this is AI slop to the point that it is impossible to trust anything from this article/blog post. As such, I flagged the submission.

- I wonder, is it possible to give a reason to the flag?

- Is flagging the submission without comments the right way to go?

For me, it is important that slowly but surely it goes through that AI slop is not what is accepted here on HN. Yes to have whatever LLM helping with grammar, spelling, etc. but the content should not be the output of a one shot "write me a blog post about humanoid robot actuators" prompt.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48005917

Re: Humanoid Robot Actuators

#38
post #26
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isaac Asimov already explained that better than I could ( https://www.reddit.com/r/asimov/comments/pm84ud/why_robots_a... ): > Besides that, our entire technology is based on the human form. An automobile, for instance, has its controls so made as to be grasped and manipulated most easily by human hands and feet of a certain size and shape, attached to the body by limbs of a certain length and joints of a certain typ…

Why not make a robotic chair? Why not build our environment out of specialized robots instead of using a hammer for everything?

Sure, there are already robot vacuum cleaners, but I somehow fail to imagine how (a) specialized robot(s) that can e.g. sort your used laundry, wash it, dry it, iron it (if necessary), fold it and put it back into the cupboard would look like?

Re: Humanoid Robot Actuators

#39
Probably a dumb question, because I know nothing about robotics, but:

> The "Zero RPM" Problem

> When a robot bends its knees to stand, the motor must constantly fight gravity. There is no skeletal structure to lock against. To an electric motor, holding a static load—known as stall torque—is the most punishing state possible.

Why not just add some kind of brake that can fully or partially lock the joint?

Re: Humanoid Robot Actuators

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post #17
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isaac Asimov already explained that better than I could ( https://www.reddit.com/r/asimov/comments/pm84ud/why_robots_a... ): > Besides that, our entire technology is based on the human form. An automobile, for instance, has its controls so made as to be grasped and manipulated most easily by human hands and feet of a certain size and shape, attached to the body by limbs of a certain length and joints of a certain typ…

Right, but: 1. Asimov wrote that because he needed robots to be indistinguishable from humans for plot reasons. 2. We do 99% of our tool use with our arms and hands. We are already very good at building robot arms. We are getting better at robot hands. We can build robot legs, but they're very expensive and they pose a major safety risk for the robot itself and surrounding humans (because the robot can fall if there…

It's 100% a HMI and moving costs to the other end of supply chain.

We can have optimized automation in warehouses/logistics, but if you talk to any site manager you learn very quickly that no one wants any downtime or impact to their operation to introduce new machinery or optimize traffic, etc. If it is not built with that from the start it's very hard to introduce it later on unless there is a very clear deployment path and cost structure.

And boy, robotics currently has any of those today. Sure, move those billions in to R&D. Time will tell.

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