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Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

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Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

#31

I need more dopamine headlines like this to justify my dopamine addiction to coffee.

Not everything is dopamine. Maybe nitpicky on my end but it gets tiresome when everyone is just like dopamine this, dopamine that, when no one really understands neurotransmitters.

Haha, I viewed a video recently (in French) that said « dopamine is right-wing ».

It was ironic but interesting : dopamine is viewed as THE neurotransmitter of motivation while in fact it’s only one part of the mechanism. But it’s the part everyone is bragging about because it supports the idea that you can control your dopamine levels and be responsible of your own motivation.

The whole point of the argument was that your serotonin and noradrenaline levels were as much as important if not more, and, fat chance, you cannot buy serotonin or noradrenaline supplements. You have to be in mentally in a good place to get those right and that’s not something you have that much control over. Especially your noradrenaline levels are strongly tied to the quality of your environment and that’s why you should politically fight for a better life environment.

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

#32

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A lot of people consume nicotine. It has been isolated and used in products for a long time. There's no clear link to cancer, but it could impact cardiovascular health (like all stimulants seem to). Some research indicates that nicotine can influence how existing cancer behaves and spreads, so that's worth considering.

Right, point taken, but I wasn't following how nicotine properties were connected to coffee's health benefits.

zingababba started this thread talking about mixing caffeine and nicotine.

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you familiar with the process of extracting the caffeine in decaf? Unfortunately it isn't without potential downsides.

Yes, I know the four main methods of decaffeination. The haters have gone down this road with me many times. Why can't people just let me drink my decaf? It's like they can't enjoy their caffeine unless everybody does. It's weirdly pushy.

My initial charitable reading -- as someone who sometimes dabbles in decaf -- is that decaffeination has the bad side effect of stripping flavors, and likely many of the other biologically active chemicals. I can see from their further posts that they were more interested in unscientific fear mongering instead.

That said, I do think there is some truth that decaf is lacking (including via supercritical CO2) and I wonder how long until we could have a product like genetically engineered coffee plants that produce everything except caffeine. I'd like that, though I can immediately see an issue with growing a plant without its natural pesticide.

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

#35

I love coffee. It's good for you, it smells and tastes so good. It wakes you up, and prevents sleepiness after meals. Its stimulant nature is a plus, but not necessarily the main thing.

I would be very cautious about any conclusions regarding its health benefits or detriments. Nutrition research is notoriously difficult to replicate or show causal links in humans engaging with the real world.

Texas A&M also has a coffee research center dedicated to promoting and protecting global coffee trade and consumption so… yeah.

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

#36

I love coffee. It's good for you, it smells and tastes so good. It wakes you up, and prevents sleepiness after meals. Its stimulant nature is a plus, but not necessarily the main thing.

That's why I moved to decaf. Love coffee, caffeine doesn't like me.

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

#37

"While caffeine is the major individual component of coffee, the study suggests that it may not be the primary driver of these health effects." All you haters that give me grief for drinking my daily cup of decaf can shut up now.

I'm all for decaf 100%.

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of people consume nicotine. It has been isolated and used in products for a long time. There's no clear link to cancer, but it could impact cardiovascular health (like all stimulants seem to). Some research indicates that nicotine can influence how existing cancer behaves and spreads, so that's worth considering.

Right, point taken, but I wasn't following how nicotine properties were connected to coffee's health benefits.

He was suggesting— jokingly— that maybe coffee cancels out the deleterious effects of smoking, because indeed coffee + a cigar or pipe is truly an excellent experience.

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

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post #35

I love coffee. It's good for you, it smells and tastes so good. It wakes you up, and prevents sleepiness after meals. Its stimulant nature is a plus, but not necessarily the main thing.

I would be very cautious about any conclusions regarding its health benefits or detriments. Nutrition research is notoriously difficult to replicate or show causal links in humans engaging with the real world. Texas A&M also has a coffee research center dedicated to promoting and protecting global coffee trade and consumption so… yeah.

Sure, but it's also the best we got.

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

#40

"While caffeine is the major individual component of coffee, the study suggests that it may not be the primary driver of these health effects." All you haters that give me grief for drinking my daily cup of decaf can shut up now.

Why should someone hate on you just because you enjoy decaf?
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