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Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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post #10

It fascinates me to speculate about who this is for. At least among people I've talked to, the ones who still want windows (instead of the obvious alternatives) cite wanting things to "just work", often claiming that they "don't want making the computer work to become a second job" or similar. I personally don't think these preferences reflect the reality of how much effort using e.g. a linux distro is in this day an…

> obvious alternatives

First of all, in many countries outside of EU/US it's just not possible to buy laptop without preinstalled Windows 11 (except Apple). For example, even if a model supports Linux in the US as many Lenovo Thinkpads do, in Singapore it's just not sold without Windows.

Second, Microsoft has broken sleep with pushing S0 sleep in UEFI. Bettery life is shit now, and hibernate is disabled by default in most OS. Also, hibernate in Linux is a complete disaster comparing to windows one (windows presaves memory to disk continuously, while in linux you have to wait until the whole ram (+ vram, if gpu) is saved/restored). It takes time. Sleep s3 is needed, but Microsoft killed it. So linux is really a bad choice for laptop. But Windows 11 is much worse, especially if you don't really like ads.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Microsoft is trying to sell things like extended servicing agreements. They purposefully make Windows worse so they can sell you solutions to fix it. They purposefully keep it insecure so you need their updates. It’s about taking the customers hostage.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

#33
post #21

It's fascinating that one of the top features insiders are interested in is making File Explorer more dependable.

They took a real punch to the gut when File Pilot rolled out and showed them what their own devs should have been doing.

Directory Opus has been doing that for decades.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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post #16
post #4

Just switch to Linux people!

Except I can't because of the games I play?

That is a problem of any operating system switch, you need to figure out what software is compatible or weather there are suitable replacements. It's the same even if you switch between iOS and Android.

That said, Linux used to be a tough cookie because there were so little support for software people wanted to run and the alternatives didn't do it any favours, plus the barrage of problems you used to get installing it on a random machine was discouraging, at best. Nowadays your chances of running it well on a random machine is pretty damn good and getting the software you need is lot more feasible. But don't go YOLOing a linux install, see if meets your use cases. There is nothing wrong with waiting until it's good enough.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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> Second, a shared sense of pride. We want to be proud of what we build... Yep, that's marketing. You don't care about your users.

Yes, they do admit that.

> a broader shift to make AI in Windows more intentional and realign the experiences to those that provide the most value to users

To be fair they are claiming a shift away from their previous policy of not aligning the product to provide value to users...

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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> Second, a shared sense of pride. We want to be proud of what we build... Yep, that's marketing. You don't care about your users.

I guess their intent was to instil a sense of pride and accomplishment for those who’ve sunk intangible investments into their platform.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

#37
post #25

"trust me bro"

Yeah exactly. They already have a fixed distro that is Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC.

...and there's clearly huge market-demand for Windows LTSC amongst retail customers, and yet, MS's C-levels already decided for them that no amount of love nor money - excepting a sufficiently large enterprise licensing contract - can legally entitle you to a license - or even official media - for Windows LTSC.

It reminds me of when Adobe ended perpetual licensing and switched to cloud(TM)-only, subscription licensing for Photoshop, et al: many of us (myself included) assumed that Adobe was surely making a foolish mistake to abandon perpetual-license customers, but it turns out[1] that was the plan all along: those customers are a vocal minority who can demonstrably afford to pay more, the rest of the customer-base doesn't care enough to switch to a competitor. Over 10 years later (2013), we haven't seen any of Photoshop's then-promising upstart competitors come close.

...on that basis, I don't think MSFT's recent backpedalling on Windows 11's disrespect for its own users is in any way a response to us power-users complaining online - or even because any number of us did fully migrate off Windows and onto Linux, but instead because of all the recent talk overseas from foreign governments (France, Germany) taking active steps to secure their digital-sovereignty and deploying more Linux desktops; and a good way to get people (and decision-makers in government and large businesses) personally interested in digital-sovereignty is by pointing out how shitty their own corporate desktop UX has gotten.

I'll gladly eat my hat when/if MS graciously allows regular retail consumers, and not just large organizations - and those of us with a $2000/yr MSDN Subscription - the privilege of paying for an OS without advertising built-in to the shell and having hard dependencies on proprietary online services.

[1] (This article has some hallmarks of LLM "assistance" but gets the point across; and cites sources at the bottom): https://secondactsbiz.substack.com/p/adobe-the-transformatio...

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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By changing two settings in Windows, you can fix the worst of it.

Using a local group policy, you can change when "Preview builds and Feature updates" and "Quality Updates" become available in Windows Update.

By delaying those with 30 or 60 days, you will never have preview updates applied to your system, and feature and quality updates will have at least 1 or 2 months' worth of fixes before you get them.

start > run > gpedit.msc > Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > Manage updates offered from Windows Update >

1) Enable "Select when preview builds and feature updates are received". Set days to 60

2) Enable "Select when quality updates are received". Set days to 30 (max value)

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

#40
What people realy want: as little OS as possible to let them run just the things on their computer they want to run.

What Microsoft wants: Windows as their straightjacket into the Microsoft services as that is where the revenue is.

Why Windows got this bad: incentives and coercion placed on the teams to show uptake on the services no matter what leading to perversion in tactics and complete alienation of the user base.

The incentives are alomost perpendicularly misaligned.

Regaining trust is extremely hard after you've crossed an edge. People are looking for the exit, finding there is indeed a door, and stopping them will take far more than just some reassurance from the DJ boot.

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