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Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by Lord-Jobo »

piker wrote: post #12
internet2000 wrote: post #7

> Apple runs on Anthropic at this point. Anthropic is powering a lot of the stuff Apple is doing internally in terms of product development, a lot of their internal tools…They have custom versions of Claude running on their own servers internally. --Mark Gurman, Bloomberg https://x.com/tbpn/status/2016911797656367199

I'm suspicious of that take from Mark Gurman. That's a lot of detail around pricing and "holding Apple over a barrel" as relates to the Siri deal that seems like a nice PR spin from Anthropic. Anthropic probably couldn't give the uptime guarantees that Google can, right?

Gueman might be the only leaker in tech who, so far, doesn’t seem to fuck around. Low miss rate, rarely exaggerates. Of course that could change and he could always get insider info that is wrong.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by smcg »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #20
ramon156 wrote: post #14

Unrelated: Yuck. a lot of those replies have LLM smells. Do people love being a hollow puppet for LLMs to fill in? Have people lost their identity?

If I were a sociopath who didn’t care at all about the commons I’d be ruining by doing so, I suppose I’d find it intellectually interesting to set up a ClaudeyLemonZest and see how people react to various settings.

Come join the party at ClaudeyLemonParty

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by danpalmer »

piker wrote: post #12
internet2000 wrote: post #7

> Apple runs on Anthropic at this point. Anthropic is powering a lot of the stuff Apple is doing internally in terms of product development, a lot of their internal tools…They have custom versions of Claude running on their own servers internally. --Mark Gurman, Bloomberg https://x.com/tbpn/status/2016911797656367199

I'm suspicious of that take from Mark Gurman. That's a lot of detail around pricing and "holding Apple over a barrel" as relates to the Siri deal that seems like a nice PR spin from Anthropic. Anthropic probably couldn't give the uptime guarantees that Google can, right?

The reporting says it's running on their own hardware.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by acdha »

stefan_ wrote: post #13
rustyhancock wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple seems to purposefully have decided to sit out the arms race. Probably smart time to rent and not buy if they plan on buying in a downturn.

Okay, but why is the Siri team sitting out transformers. I really wanna move past the „Dragon Naturally Speaking“ experience with a bolted on decision tree.

Who’s doing it better? I have yet to hear from a Google or Amazon user who has a transformatively better experience, and I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by embedding-shape »

I don't think you need to even see any files to realize much of Apple's software is vibe-coded by now.

Had some issues with my monitor apparently seeing connection to my Mac Mini, but the Mac Mini displaying black, apparently somehow got out of sync with my monitor, sleeping the display controller then waking it solved it.

Gathered a bunch of data, wanting to submit a report, since I'm a Apple Developer Program member since like two days ago, and I wanna be a good c̶u̶s̶t̶o̶m̶e̶r̶ user, so I opened up Feedback Assistant.

It asks me for my email, I input it, press enter. A password input appears, but keyboard focus doesn't move there automatically. I know is such a tiny nitpick practically, but tiny shit like this makes it so obvious that not a single person actually tried this UX. 10-15 years ago, Apple would never release something that isn't perfect, but now there are these UX edges absolutely everywhere across the OS.

I ended up not logging in at all, wrote my fix into a tiny fix-display.swift file which I'll run when it happens instead.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by piker »

danpalmer wrote: post #33
piker wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm suspicious of that take from Mark Gurman. That's a lot of detail around pricing and "holding Apple over a barrel" as relates to the Siri deal that seems like a nice PR spin from Anthropic. Anthropic probably couldn't give the uptime guarantees that Google can, right?

The reporting says it's running on their own hardware.

Internal dev tools, but the point I'm making relates to the discussion about choosing Gemini over Claude for their consumer-facing products.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by engineer_22 »

Spooky23 wrote: post #19
piker wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm suspicious of that take from Mark Gurman. That's a lot of detail around pricing and "holding Apple over a barrel" as relates to the Siri deal that seems like a nice PR spin from Anthropic. Anthropic probably couldn't give the uptime guarantees that Google can, right?

Apple is a pretty difficult company to deal with on a B2B basis. If you have terms that conflict with theirs, they aren’t very flexible. Anthropic can be similarly difficult, and their needs from a business perspective probably don’t align with Siri. I would imagine that Google has a more flexible/long term approach to absorbing some risk in a revenue share arrangement than anthropic who generally wants cash. Anthrop…

Tbh I thought their purpose was to power the war machine

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by engineer_22 »

einsteinx2 wrote: post #27
traceroute66 wrote: post #22

Whilst tempting, I think it is important not to read too much into this. It is no secret that Apple has an enormous R&D budget. It is no secret that Apple operates with hundreds of siloed teams in order to maintain individual domain expertise. The teams then come together in a collaborative manner to bring together the final products. So yes, it is likely true that SOME teams use SOME LLM for SOME tasks. It is a viab…

> It is no secret that Apple operates with hundreds of siloed teams in order to maintain individual domain expertise. The teams then come together in a collaborative manner to bring together the final products. Having worked there this is a perfect description of the organization from my experience. > So yes, it is likely true that SOME teams use SOME LLM for SOME tasks. It is a viable argument from R&D and other per…

Risk of embarrassment is too great to be vibe coding, apple's brand is TRUST and people don't trust AI... A slip like this erodes their brand

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by realusername »

gchamonlive wrote: post #16
stefan_ wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, but why is the Siri team sitting out transformers. I really wanna move past the „Dragon Naturally Speaking“ experience with a bolted on decision tree.

I think it's the same reason why MacOS and iOS degraded a lot in terms of UX the past decade. The focus of Apple shifted towards hardware independence. The 2010s was marked by Intel's lazy product lineup, year after year pumping rehashes of older products, iterating on top of their 14nm lithography with increasingly minor improvements on its architecture until AMD overcame them. In the process, Apple's partnership wi…

I always found that Apple had pretty mediocre software qualify, it's always been a very strong hardware company first and foremost.

They have great kernel, drivers and low level engineering but the stack above that has a lot of questionable stuff.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by piker »

Spooky23 wrote: post #19
piker wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm suspicious of that take from Mark Gurman. That's a lot of detail around pricing and "holding Apple over a barrel" as relates to the Siri deal that seems like a nice PR spin from Anthropic. Anthropic probably couldn't give the uptime guarantees that Google can, right?

Apple is a pretty difficult company to deal with on a B2B basis. If you have terms that conflict with theirs, they aren’t very flexible. Anthropic can be similarly difficult, and their needs from a business perspective probably don’t align with Siri. I would imagine that Google has a more flexible/long term approach to absorbing some risk in a revenue share arrangement than anthropic who generally wants cash. Anthrop…

Yeah, that makes more sense to me than "Anthropic had them over the barrel". Which seemed quite odd given the relative cash positions and installed base of each firm.
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