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Re: It’s Toasted

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Post by swiftcoder »

cermicelli wrote: post #8

Can we just, I mean just stop using and caring about most social media. Especially facebook, it offers no meaningful value. It's slow, obtuse and haven't made life better for anyone in the last decade I suppose. Maybe whatsapp has some use, but otherwise what's even the point. I don't even have ads on whatsapp not yet anyways, I will get my family to switch when they do. I don't care about you Meta/Facebook or whatev…

> Maybe whatsapp has some use

WhatsApp is a real hard breakup in much of the world. It's the defacto standard for communication around here, and even a bunch of businesses use it exclusively. One can hope the EU will eventually mandate unlimited SMS on cellphone plans, but I don't see WhatsApp being dethroned another way

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Post by unmole »

swiftcoder wrote: post #31
cermicelli wrote: post #8

Can we just, I mean just stop using and caring about most social media. Especially facebook, it offers no meaningful value. It's slow, obtuse and haven't made life better for anyone in the last decade I suppose. Maybe whatsapp has some use, but otherwise what's even the point. I don't even have ads on whatsapp not yet anyways, I will get my family to switch when they do. I don't care about you Meta/Facebook or whatev…

> Maybe whatsapp has some use WhatsApp is a real hard breakup in much of the world. It's the defacto standard for communication around here, and even a bunch of businesses use it exclusively. One can hope the EU will eventually mandate unlimited SMS on cellphone plans, but I don't see WhatsApp being dethroned another way

The UX and feature set of WhatsApp is much better than SMS. India has practically free SMS but WhatsApp remains pervasive.

Re: It’s Toasted

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Post by finghin »

unmole wrote: post #32
swiftcoder wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Maybe whatsapp has some use WhatsApp is a real hard breakup in much of the world. It's the defacto standard for communication around here, and even a bunch of businesses use it exclusively. One can hope the EU will eventually mandate unlimited SMS on cellphone plans, but I don't see WhatsApp being dethroned another way

The UX and feature set of WhatsApp is much better than SMS. India has practically free SMS but WhatsApp remains pervasive.

WhatsApp is the “best” Meta app by far. It does just offer an easy, secure way of contacting people using their phone number, through text, voice, images, video.

None of their other apps come close. It doesn’t even look like a Meta product to me.

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Post by vladvasiliu »

swiftcoder wrote: post #31
cermicelli wrote: post #8

Can we just, I mean just stop using and caring about most social media. Especially facebook, it offers no meaningful value. It's slow, obtuse and haven't made life better for anyone in the last decade I suppose. Maybe whatsapp has some use, but otherwise what's even the point. I don't even have ads on whatsapp not yet anyways, I will get my family to switch when they do. I don't care about you Meta/Facebook or whatev…

> Maybe whatsapp has some use WhatsApp is a real hard breakup in much of the world. It's the defacto standard for communication around here, and even a bunch of businesses use it exclusively. One can hope the EU will eventually mandate unlimited SMS on cellphone plans, but I don't see WhatsApp being dethroned another way

> One can hope the EU will eventually mandate unlimited SMS on cellphone plans, but I don't see WhatsApp being dethroned another way

I doubt it.

Here in France, cell plans have had unlimited SMS for a very long time now. Yet, WhatsApp still is extremely widespread. Now, I'm not the most socially connected guy around, so I may not be attuned to any new developing trends in the matter, but IME it doesn't seem to lose any popularity, and something like 95% of the people I interact with on WhatsApp are locals.

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Post by jeraldbenny »

finghin wrote: post #33
unmole wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UX and feature set of WhatsApp is much better than SMS. India has practically free SMS but WhatsApp remains pervasive.

WhatsApp is the “best” Meta app by far. It does just offer an easy, secure way of contacting people using their phone number, through text, voice, images, video. None of their other apps come close. It doesn’t even look like a Meta product to me.

Meta acquired WhatsApp, thats why its the best

Re: It’s Toasted

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Post by DauntingPear7 »

shevy-java wrote: post #2

I understand the comparison, and if it were up to me, Facebook (aka Meta) and so forth should be disbanded and chopped up at once. But ... > Recent research shows that social media design features like infinite scroll and algorithmic feeds may encourage compulsive use and contribute to anxiety, depression, and social comparison. So their design is addictive; not disagreeing. I think most of us know that, even as adul…

Perhaps it’s not about the length of life but instead the quality of life. Gambling addiction is bad but doesn’t necessarily reduce lifespan in a way comparable to smoking, for example.

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Post by orwin »

ramon156 wrote: post #16
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #11

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The problem is it that it has a helluva lot of momentum from normies. Easily enough to outweigh the resistance of the likes of you and me. The only thing will break it is a better / easier alternative. And with enough success that will probably turn into the next big bad.

> normies I would argue that it's more or less that humans don't like change, and that boomers get upset about change. It seems that the older you get, the more egotistical/selfish you become. I'm not saying my grandma is selfish for not wanting to switch away from WhatsApp, but I am saying that it'd be hard to convince her to switch, hence I don't try.

It's not about age, it's about social connections that keeps you on your toes all life long.

Re: It’s Toasted

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

wiseowise wrote: post #17
ramon156 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> normies I would argue that it's more or less that humans don't like change, and that boomers get upset about change. It seems that the older you get, the more egotistical/selfish you become. I'm not saying my grandma is selfish for not wanting to switch away from WhatsApp, but I am saying that it'd be hard to convince her to switch, hence I don't try.

> It seems that the older you get, the more self-respect you develop. FTFY.

Only if you switch off all the consumer hostile platforms...

Re: It’s Toasted

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Post by jhbadger »

graemep wrote: post #21
praptak wrote: post #14

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You could make a similar noble call for everyone to just stop using cigarettes in 1950. It would not work. What ultimately worked were laws designed to curb tobacco use combined with public education campaigns.

I think attitudes mattered more than law, but some laws (e.g. advertising restrictions, and packaging requirements) may have helped change attitudes, but growing awareness of the health issues was the key. In 1950 tobacco was cool. By 2000 it was very definitely not. In western Europe at least, sales of premium brands were falling sharply and volumes shifting to cheap brands - a lot less profitable even for the same…

Definitely. Smoking used to be the default and non-smokers were viewed as being eccentric like vegetarians/vegans still are today and having a small non-smoking section was seen as something for "those people" like restaurants that have just one or two meatless options now. It was a huge social shift regarding smoking starting in the early 1990s -- decades after the health issues were known.
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