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Re: If I could make my own GitHub

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Post by shevy-java »

jacobwiseberg wrote: post #17

When the solution becomes the problem, an opportunity for disruption opens up. Lots of chatter around this right now. I'd be curious to see if any of the many alternatives popping up gain traction before Github course corrects.

> before Github course corrects

I think the problem is that Microsoft committed to AI totally. There is no way back for them. And this also means that Github will suffer from this. Microsoft PR will tell people that AI is the solution to everything, but in reality it will lead to problems that keep on coming up again and again. Now, people may say "but Github services being down, does not have anything directly to do with AI" - while that may be true, the problem is that Microsoft shifted its strategy already, so most of its considerations will go about AI top down control. Whether people's workflow using Github is disrupted, is at best only of secondary interest to Microsoft - and that specific problem will keep on resurfacing again and again and again. Perhaps it will be silent for 3 months or so - but I am 100% certain that in the not so distant future, you'll have a new drama story about how Github is declining.

This is like step-wise deterioration. Ghostty won't be the last here.

Whether alternatives arise ... that will be interesting to see. I mean those alternatives need to not suck, but a lot of those websites etc... kind of suck.

Re: If I could make my own GitHub

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Post by IshKebab »

Pay08 wrote: post #11
nerdypepper wrote: post #8

> Well Y Does Some Of That yes but tangled.org really does do most of that! 1. JJ as the VCS: tangled supports stacked PRs using jj change-ids. https://blog.tangled.org/stacking , we use it a lot to build tangled itself: https://tangled.org/tangled.org/core/pulls 2. Raspberry pi as a forge for a long time: also check, the git server shim is super lightweight, its just an XRPC layer over git repositories + an sqlite3…

Honestly, something like Radical seems a lot more seamless and complete. Or at the very least, I'm wary of Tangled's alpha tag.

Also it sounds like private repos are not possible at all, which is quite the limitation!

https://tangled.org/did:plc:wshs7t2adsemcrrd4snkeqli/core/is...

Re: If I could make my own GitHub

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Post by ramon156 »

shevy-java wrote: post #31
jacobwiseberg wrote: post #17

When the solution becomes the problem, an opportunity for disruption opens up. Lots of chatter around this right now. I'd be curious to see if any of the many alternatives popping up gain traction before Github course corrects.

> before Github course corrects I think the problem is that Microsoft committed to AI totally. There is no way back for them. And this also means that Github will suffer from this. Microsoft PR will tell people that AI is the solution to everything, but in reality it will lead to problems that keep on coming up again and again. Now, people may say "but Github services being down, does not have anything directly to do…

They can support hosting your own git instance through their platform. That would imo be more interesting. You keep your code, run your runners, but don't get bombarded with bots

Re: If I could make my own GitHub

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Post by CamouflagedKiwi »

nerdypepper wrote: post #8

> Well Y Does Some Of That yes but tangled.org really does do most of that! 1. JJ as the VCS: tangled supports stacked PRs using jj change-ids. https://blog.tangled.org/stacking , we use it a lot to build tangled itself: https://tangled.org/tangled.org/core/pulls 2. Raspberry pi as a forge for a long time: also check, the git server shim is super lightweight, its just an XRPC layer over git repositories + an sqlite3…

It is the job of the build system, yes. In most cases the problems people want to solve with locally runnable Actions aren't the build not working, it's the whole integration of the thing; all the YAML definition, secrets, exactly what commands it runs, how it restores tools and caches (which your build system _might_ take care of but the available primitives for that in GHA are very poor), etc.

I do think it's just an awkward problem to solve though, because it essentially devolves to needing to run the entire system somewhere else, which is why every system I've seen like this ends up being trial-and-error.

Re: If I could make my own GitHub

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Post by ralferoo »

There's a good argument to be made that the data for reviews could be held in git repos just as easily as the source.

It can be done incredibly easily simply by having a branch per review with a known prefix (although these will rapidly clog up the default branch namespace), implemented via git namespaces to be distinct from the main namespace, or maybe just a special branch e.g. ".reviews" that just contains commit IDs for the tip of each review branch.

It just needs someone who's invested enough to specify it and make a viable implementation, after which people might start adopting it. I guess the reason github and the various forges didn't take this approach is that keeping the review metadata within their ecosystem is what gives their platform value. If anyone could use any local tool they like for reviewing other people's code, there wouldn't be as much vendor stickiness.

EDIT: actually, I guess there are other reasons why you might want your review metadata in a different repository, such as access control and/or cross-repo reviews.

Re: If I could make my own GitHub

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Post by GCUMstlyHarmls »

Pay08 wrote: post #11
nerdypepper wrote: post #8

> Well Y Does Some Of That yes but tangled.org really does do most of that! 1. JJ as the VCS: tangled supports stacked PRs using jj change-ids. https://blog.tangled.org/stacking , we use it a lot to build tangled itself: https://tangled.org/tangled.org/core/pulls 2. Raspberry pi as a forge for a long time: also check, the git server shim is super lightweight, its just an XRPC layer over git repositories + an sqlite3…

Honestly, something like Radical seems a lot more seamless and complete. Or at the very least, I'm wary of Tangled's alpha tag.

Between Radicle, Tangled and Grasp, Radicle feels the coolest to me, emotionally, local first, p2p, for whatever reason it feels kind of nostalgic.

Grasp is actually pretty cool too, built on nostr, which is maybe a stronger platform in the end? I dont really know enough about it. Stronger as in, you're maybe opening up more interoperablity by putting your stuff on a "anything network" vs Radicles "p2p git data network".

To be honest they're all cool ideas, Tangled feels some how corporate though.

Re: If I could make my own GitHub

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Post by gucci-on-fleek »

DarkNova6 wrote: post #29
xixixao wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think GitLab is a good alternative to GitHub, I have 0 trust in you. GitLab and Azure are a daily source of pain for us.

Can you name some? I keep wondering about the aversion to Gitlab. I have yet to have negative experiences with it.

As a casual user, I find the UI incredibly confusing. And not just because it's different from GitHub, but because there are so many features and there are menus absolutely everywhere.

I'm sure if I used it more often that I would figure it out, but it's deeply off-putting for someone who only uses it twice a year or so.

Re: If I could make my own GitHub

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Post by Pay08 »

IshKebab wrote: post #33
Pay08 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, something like Radical seems a lot more seamless and complete. Or at the very least, I'm wary of Tangled's alpha tag.

Also it sounds like private repos are not possible at all, which is quite the limitation! https://tangled.org/did:plc:wshs7t2adsemcrrd4snkeqli/core/is...

I can understand that. It's a difficult problem design-wise and needs someone that knows crypto, so I won't hold it against software that labels itself as alpha.

Re: If I could make my own GitHub

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Post by Vedor »

corvad wrote: post #12
nerdypepper wrote: post #8

> Well Y Does Some Of That yes but tangled.org really does do most of that! 1. JJ as the VCS: tangled supports stacked PRs using jj change-ids. https://blog.tangled.org/stacking , we use it a lot to build tangled itself: https://tangled.org/tangled.org/core/pulls 2. Raspberry pi as a forge for a long time: also check, the git server shim is super lightweight, its just an XRPC layer over git repositories + an sqlite3…

Surprised to see raspberry pi for hosting data that's supposed to be integral to a workflow. I've been burned too many times by SD card corruption in the past. Do you use NVME drives nowadays, just curious.

I use RPi 4 with a cheap SSD connected via USB-to-SATA connector as a tiny home server for a year already and it works without issues.

I know that not all USB-to-SATA connectors are compatible with RPi – I got lucky with the first connector I tried (Unitek). Not sure if RPi 5 has a wider compatibility.

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