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Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

#31

Is sasha-id an Anthropic employee or official bot, or a prank? The structure of its response is strange, plus that gif. Cherny's response seems like the only legitimate one. My question is serious; apologies if the answer is obvious to you.

He's the guy who reported the bug. It looks like he copy-pasted an email from Anthropic without context, and the gif is his response.

Thank you for pointing this out, it left me confused. It would have been a lot clearer if the text were in a quote block!

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The official response feels AI generated. I suspect this is a preview of our future. "You're totally right! I'm sorry but you're going to have to piss off anyway. Would you like to spend a few more hours discussing it with our AI chatbot? It won't help. But if it makes you feel better, it will probably cost us an extra $0.12 in tokens." I'll bet the first human at Anthropic learns about this from HN.

This is exactly what small claims court is for. Small claims court is exempt from arbitration requirements (which are primarily aimed at avoiding class action suits). It doesn't require you to hire a lawyer, and probably won't get your account automatically nuked the way a credit-card chargeback would.

If you file pro se and even if you've agreed to ten thousand arbitration clauses, they'll at least have to spend $200 on a lawyer to respond.

So, you can waste as much of their money as they wasted of yours.

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The official response feels AI generated. I suspect this is a preview of our future. "You're totally right! I'm sorry but you're going to have to piss off anyway. Would you like to spend a few more hours discussing it with our AI chatbot? It won't help. But if it makes you feel better, it will probably cost us an extra $0.12 in tokens." I'll bet the first human at Anthropic learns about this from HN.

This is exactly what small claims court is for. Small claims court is exempt from arbitration requirements (which are primarily aimed at avoiding class action suits). It doesn't require you to hire a lawyer, and probably won't get your account automatically nuked the way a credit-card chargeback would.

You're totally right! Please refer to paragraph 213 of your service agreement, in which you agree to binding arbitration with an arbiter of our choosing at your cost. I hope this answers all of your questions! Have a wonderful day!

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

#35

Is sasha-id an Anthropic employee or official bot, or a prank? The structure of its response is strange, plus that gif. Cherny's response seems like the only legitimate one. My question is serious; apologies if the answer is obvious to you.

I get the confusion -- it looks like the reporter of the bug just posted a raw email response that they got without adding any sort of decoration to make it clear it was from an email they got. At least, that's my reading of this.

I'm also not sure if the person/bot who responded was saying "No refund" or that they couldn't issue a refund, or if a Github Issue was an appropriate place to ask for a refund.

Let's hope a human on the other end is reading this and acting accordingly. It all seems like we're only seeing part of a story.

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

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post #25
post #3

> However, I need to let you know that we are unable to issue compensation for degraded service or *technical errors* that result in incorrect billing routing. This is very surprising. I've never seen a legitimate business not give refunds for technical errors of their own fault. Minimum Anthropic should credit the full amount to them.

Maybe Anthropic is just testing the waters to see what they can get away with. Left unchallenged (court, charge back, whatever) why change course?

theres no water-testing here, they've been operating this way for years -- that's why I am a former customer.

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

#37

Is sasha-id an Anthropic employee or official bot, or a prank? The structure of its response is strange, plus that gif. Cherny's response seems like the only legitimate one. My question is serious; apologies if the answer is obvious to you.

sasha-id submitted the original bug report, and then bcherny confirmed that it was a bug and that it's been fixed.

Given that, it's almost guaranteed that sasha-id is a legitimate actor.

If you're confused about sasha-id's comment here (https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/53262#issue...), it's because they just copied and pasted a support response from Anthropic.

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

#39
post #3

> However, I need to let you know that we are unable to issue compensation for degraded service or *technical errors* that result in incorrect billing routing. This is very surprising. I've never seen a legitimate business not give refunds for technical errors of their own fault. Minimum Anthropic should credit the full amount to them.

They’re also objectively not “unable” they are “unwilling” and hiding behind policies as if they are unalterable laws is silly.

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

#40
post #5

C'mon folks, let's stop using Claude|ChatGPT|etc en masse. It's time to start the revolution (from our beds, at least)

I'm in. What's next?

Invest in local and open source LLMs. They are not as advanced as proprietary ones, but we can all use them and define them as the standard. We don't need closed models
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