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Claude Pro: Opus model will only be available if extra usage is enabled

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Re: Claude Pro: Opus model will only be available if extra usage is enabled

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Post by Incipient »

ceroxylon wrote: post #26
Aboutplants wrote: post #7

Turns out when the bills start rolling in you need the revenue to pay them. Here comes the bumpy ride

i've been using the API for a portion of my work to prepare for this and test to see how much it will cost in the long term, turns out that was the short term. it is rough, but it has taught me to treat every prompt and process with care since i watch the pennies and dollars burn instead of tokens, which is a good habit to get into anyway

Copilot has said they'll be giving out previous months "if you did token pricing, it would cost $x" so a lot of us will have real numbers to actually anticipate our spend.

Personally I'm anticipating agentic coding will be out of my price bracket (a single agent run costing US$20+ is far beyond what I can justify, especially with how often it fails). I'm planning on going back to optimised prompts on one-pass edits.

Re: Claude Pro: Opus model will only be available if extra usage is enabled

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Post by a10c »

ceroxylon wrote: post #26
Aboutplants wrote: post #7

Turns out when the bills start rolling in you need the revenue to pay them. Here comes the bumpy ride

i've been using the API for a portion of my work to prepare for this and test to see how much it will cost in the long term, turns out that was the short term. it is rough, but it has taught me to treat every prompt and process with care since i watch the pennies and dollars burn instead of tokens, which is a good habit to get into anyway

I use pi (https://pi.dev/) as my coding agent which allowed you to use your subscription until Claude recently introduced extra usage and I was routinely using the equivalent of my Claude Max subscription in an hour multiple times a day.

The writing is on the wall.

Re: Claude Pro: Opus model will only be available if extra usage is enabled

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Post by ochronus »

kingleopold wrote: post #4
6Az4Mj4D wrote: post #3

It's just matter of time that price become so high that Enterprise cannot afford these tools unless they self-host open models. Only problem is open models are coming from China and not many countries trust that to use inside companies. How will it play?

US investors can't afford price being too high tho. This thing would wipe trillions if they make prices a lot higher. Interesting times ahead

Hence the only other path: slow, constant enshittification of the models' performance

Re: Claude Pro: Opus model will only be available if extra usage is enabled

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Post by 6Az4Mj4D »

still_grokking wrote: post #28
6Az4Mj4D wrote: post #3

It's just matter of time that price become so high that Enterprise cannot afford these tools unless they self-host open models. Only problem is open models are coming from China and not many countries trust that to use inside companies. How will it play?

Looks like the Chinese are, again, winning the long game. There is simply nothing that could compete with their open models. At the same time more and more corps got "AI addicted", so they will either have to pay ridiculous amounts of money, or use the Chinese stuff.

You are right about addiction; the instant gratification is on peak with tools like Claude. I use $200 plan and my token usage for last 30 days is 30M , If I do basic math, it will be equivalent to $1500. Assuming companies get 50% discount, still that cost is too much multiplier.

My usage might be outliner here, but 200->400 is an average case.

Re: Claude Pro: Opus model will only be available if extra usage is enabled

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Post by theshrike79 »

xer0x wrote: post #12
underyx wrote: post #8

> this is an outdated support article from before we had Opus in Pro plans, we rolled it out for Opus 4.5 in Jan and never updated, you can see in the wayback machine here: https://web.archive.org/web/20251204151142/https://support.c... > apologies for the confusion response from @thariq

Thank-you for posting this update. EDIT: However purchasing extra-usage for Pro/Max accounts is a new feature.

I've had an extra-usage quota for months now. They even gave people free credits for that some time ago.

It's useful once in a while when you're like 90% done, run out of usage and the next refresh is hours away. Then you can push that feature to completion and swap to another model that's not on cooldown.

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