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Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

#31
Does the mac still lack a SMB/CIFS browser?

I was shocked years ago that the mac, famous for its early network peer discovery and zeroconf and all, couldn't present a list of SMB servers and shares despite that kind of function being around forever on every other platform in existence.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

#32

>Apple made SMB its primary file-sharing protocol in OS X 10.9 Mavericks, over 12 years ago… …and yet SMB support in macOS remains slow and buggy to this day. I tried all combinations of server-side settings and obscure plist tweaks to make SMB navigation and search work as fast as they do on my Linux machine out of box before giving up. It is very obviously not a priority for their services revenue, so there’s no in…

I can pull about 700MB/s off my NAS over a 10Gb link. I wouldn’t exactly call it slow.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

#33

>Apple made SMB its primary file-sharing protocol in OS X 10.9 Mavericks, over 12 years ago… …and yet SMB support in macOS remains slow and buggy to this day. I tried all combinations of server-side settings and obscure plist tweaks to make SMB navigation and search work as fast as they do on my Linux machine out of box before giving up. It is very obviously not a priority for their services revenue, so there’s no in…

I found something fun last week--- Apparently if you use Adobe tools, there is a sync plugin they install for finder that can cause big issues with SMB shares. Might help you if you have that!

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

#34

Does the mac still lack a SMB/CIFS browser? I was shocked years ago that the mac, famous for its early network peer discovery and zeroconf and all, couldn't present a list of SMB servers and shares despite that kind of function being around forever on every other platform in existence.

It's had it since before version 10.4, though it wasn't fantastic, I'll give you that.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

#35

Does the mac still lack a SMB/CIFS browser? I was shocked years ago that the mac, famous for its early network peer discovery and zeroconf and all, couldn't present a list of SMB servers and shares despite that kind of function being around forever on every other platform in existence.

macOS has a Network location in the sidebar that will show other SMB devices discovered on the network.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

#36

Next: macOS iCloud backups and the eventual deprecation of local Time Machine backups altogether. More services revenue!

Changing out the network protocol used for local network backups isn't the same thing as getting rid of local network backups. TFA: > Apple made SMB its primary file-sharing protocol in OS X 10.9 Mavericks, over 12 years ago, and has repeatedly told us that support for its predecessor AFP will be removed in the future.

Hence "next". And by local I meant directly connected drives.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The story of TimeMachine is a tragedy: a revolutionary feature that made backups accessible for normal people allowed to lie fallow for a decade or more until it's as annoying and unreliable as anything else. I now use Carbon Copy Cloner to avoid the TM headaches.

I never found it to be overly reliable. It was reliable... for a while . Then would silently fail/stop working, or just tell you that it had stopped working and that whatever you had in it was no longer accessible. And then I went to Acronis True Image backing up to my Synology NAS, but that became unreliable too - oftentimes when I'd go to do a restore, the client would crash trying to read the catalog. So, like you…

For me it was a key DB file inside the Photo library which Time Machine omitted from all backups and prevented me from restoring the library. Not fun.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

#38

>Apple made SMB its primary file-sharing protocol in OS X 10.9 Mavericks, over 12 years ago… …and yet SMB support in macOS remains slow and buggy to this day. I tried all combinations of server-side settings and obscure plist tweaks to make SMB navigation and search work as fast as they do on my Linux machine out of box before giving up. It is very obviously not a priority for their services revenue, so there’s no in…

I can pull about 700MB/s off my NAS over a 10Gb link. I wouldn’t exactly call it slow.

I think SMB is quite chatty -- if you have lots of small files, you can get quite slow.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

#39

Does the mac still lack a SMB/CIFS browser? I was shocked years ago that the mac, famous for its early network peer discovery and zeroconf and all, couldn't present a list of SMB servers and shares despite that kind of function being around forever on every other platform in existence.

Must have been a lot of years ago since Samba was introduced in Jaguar (2002), and SMB replaced AFP as the default for file sharing as of Mavericks (2013).
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