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Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by kennywinker »

kube-system wrote: post #9
balamatom wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Although I am not sure why they then chose an open wood fire, which is likely far more polluting than even non-renewable grid power Likely not if you factor in the energy expenditure of gathering some firewood vs. energy expenditure of putting up a power grid. inb4 "but it's already there" lmao

Well, the atmega fab was already there and that isn’t quite clean either :) But there are many clean ways to generate electricity and electric kilns are quite efficient compared to heating over an open flame. I like the artistic element of this exercise, just thought that line of reasoning was a bit off.

The chips were pulled from dead arduinos, not bought fresh off the production line

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Post by oulipo2 »

VegaKH wrote: post #18

"We are investigating alternative hardware..." The way she writes like this is serious research is throwing me.

Serious research always start by looking like play. Read Feynmann if you want to know more

Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by amelius »

skybrian wrote: post #10

Interesting experiment, but on the other hand, maybe 3D printing would have less emissions than an open fire? I’ve not tried this, but it sounds like a good way to get fast turnaround for very simple circuits: https://bsky.app/profile/castpixel.bsky.social/post/3mf52azn...

That link sounds interesting but I can't open it :(

Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by beepbooptheory »

fxtentacle wrote: post #17

I truly don’t understand what the hope to gain from self-classifying this is “feminist”. “FEMINIST HACKING: BUILDING CIRCUITS AS AN ARTISTIC PRACTICE – an international art-based research project financed by the Austrian Science Fund (FWF)” Doesn’t that kind of invite the worst type of trolls? They seem to imply that feminist = artistically produced, as opposed to professionally produced PCBs. So masculine = professi…

The opposite of feminist is not masculine. You are conflating feminist with feminine which does indicate why your are maybe confused here. Feminism is not about being partisan like this, and you are operating through a strawman of so-called "second wave feminism" which is like over half a century old and defunct to everyone but guys who get angry at stuff like this.

Consider how calling yourself "atheist" or "rationalist" comes with some broad commitments and political tendencies, but not necessarily. We say we are an "atheist" to indicate a particular belief but also perhaps a broad attitude to culture as it stands, but not one thing or the other. Its like the same thing here!

Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by 3form »

fxtentacle wrote: post #17

I truly don’t understand what the hope to gain from self-classifying this is “feminist”. “FEMINIST HACKING: BUILDING CIRCUITS AS AN ARTISTIC PRACTICE – an international art-based research project financed by the Austrian Science Fund (FWF)” Doesn’t that kind of invite the worst type of trolls? They seem to imply that feminist = artistically produced, as opposed to professionally produced PCBs. So masculine = professi…

What are you asking about exactly? About classifying the project as feminist or the perceived feminist = artistic implication?

You start with this:

>I truly don’t understand what the hope to gain from self-classifying this is “feminist”.

To which I say - why not? Is this the problem?

Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by kennywinker »

josh-wrale wrote: post #4

I'm thinking of finer grained applications. Would CNC before firing work? Perhaps finer grained printed stamp plus air-drying clay?

i don’t think air dry clay would work very well - it has none of the thermal properties that real clay has, and would probably burn up on soldering?

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Post by jedimastert »

fxtentacle wrote: post #17

I truly don’t understand what the hope to gain from self-classifying this is “feminist”. “FEMINIST HACKING: BUILDING CIRCUITS AS AN ARTISTIC PRACTICE – an international art-based research project financed by the Austrian Science Fund (FWF)” Doesn’t that kind of invite the worst type of trolls? They seem to imply that feminist = artistically produced, as opposed to professionally produced PCBs. So masculine = professi…

The name of the site and I think the group itself is "feminist hacking", the entire point of the research group appears to be examining the ethics of technology and hacking through a feminist lens.

https://feministhackerspaces.cargo.site/Ethical_issues

Instead of just trying to make a rather obtuse guess, you could have instead tried looking around the website. It took me like half a second to find that link, even with the more free form UX.

The term "feminism" as an actual technical definition outside of just like "female empowerment vibes" it might be used for in the everyday language.

Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by lucid-dev »

New generations have new language and are attempting to define themselves through their usage of certain terminology and re-framing of words (Arduino -> Arduina).

This isn't satire and it doesn't have to be dismissed. While I don't find increasing the definition and perceived uniqueness of one's personality and identity is necessarily a positive social thing, it's pretty much the most common thing in today's world - so we shouldn't be judgemental of anyone for doing it, even if "their unique terms and identification process" don't match our own.

From a project perspective, I find this to be SO creative and VERY HELPFUL energy in terms of truly starting from a primitives/first principles perspective and shows how having a specific ethos and concept allows for development of new forms.

Like it or not, it's easy to find out the date that oil (petroleum) will run out. It's easy to see the writing on the wall for anyone who cares to see - a high tech utopia Earth will not be. So enjoying the process of pre-emptively creating new tools, new techniques, and flexible terminology - all of this will BE OF AID to all people who must live through this century together.

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