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USB Cheat Sheet (2022)

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Re: USB Cheat Sheet (2022)

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post #23

The simplicity of Thunderbolt. Versions 1 and 2 used mini DisplayPort, 3 and upwards USB-C. Version 1 was 10Gbps, 2 was 20Gbps, 3 was 40Gbps, 4 was 40Gbps, 5 is 80 or 120Gbps with boosting. A Thunderbolt 5 cable will always support 80Gbps, DisplayPort 2.1, PCIe, USB4 and power of up to 240 watt.

> and power of up to 240 watt

Except active optical cables. None exist yet that I'm aware of though.

Re: USB Cheat Sheet (2022)

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post #11

I once heard that the USB naming is misleading by design so that vendors could still sell older generations accessories they had in stock. The USB-IF just rebrands the old ones to make them sound current. Imagine the following naming: USB 3.0 / USB 3.1 Gen 1 / USB 3.2 Gen 1 -> USB 3 5Gbps USB 3.1 / USB 3.1 Gen 2 / USB 3.2 Gen 2 -> USB 3 10Gbps USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 -> USB 3 20Gbps Isn't that much clearer? I think USB 4 is…

> I think USB 4 is finally going to the right direction.

USB 4 is actually going into an even worse direction. USB 4 = Thunderbolt 4, except everything is optional. e.g. USB 4 might not even support DP Alt mode. Thunderbolt 4 always will.

Re: USB Cheat Sheet (2022)

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post #23

The simplicity of Thunderbolt. Versions 1 and 2 used mini DisplayPort, 3 and upwards USB-C. Version 1 was 10Gbps, 2 was 20Gbps, 3 was 40Gbps, 4 was 40Gbps, 5 is 80 or 120Gbps with boosting. A Thunderbolt 5 cable will always support 80Gbps, DisplayPort 2.1, PCIe, USB4 and power of up to 240 watt.

> and power of up to 240 watt Except active optical cables. None exist yet that I'm aware of though.

I'd guess that most people who use optical Thunderbolt cables are aware that they do not carry power.

Re: USB Cheat Sheet (2022)

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post #25

I’ve been a tech guy for 45 years and I still can’t figure out USB and Thunderbolt and what goes with what and how fast it’s supposed to run.

If you buy Thunderbolt 5 cables: every USB standard is compatible and then some.

Re: USB Cheat Sheet (2022)

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post #25

I’ve been a tech guy for 45 years and I still can’t figure out USB and Thunderbolt and what goes with what and how fast it’s supposed to run.

It wasn't until last year that I finally purchased my first USB-C device/cables – and after years of solid DisplayPort and Thunderbolt2 connections I absolutely hate USB-C (it's too delicate, physically).

Not until 2023 did I even have a computer newer than 2012, so I missed almost all of USB3's hayday — including nomenclature disputes — but the speeds sure are an improvement!

Re: USB Cheat Sheet (2022)

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Tangent: Author has this fabulous post I'd highly recommend: https://fabiensanglard.net/mjolnir/index.html I read it once years ago and I come back to it every now and then wishing my current PC (10+ years and going) would gently die so I could finally build something small and tiny.

You know, accidents happen. If you were to trip over the carpet and that venerable PC falls in the dumpster.
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