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The AI industry is discovering that the public hates it

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Re: The AI industry is discovering that the public hates it

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I agree, the hate against vaccines makes me sad.

GMOs too. Completely unjustified backlash for a technology with incredible potential.

Don’t even.

Unlike vaccines, the patent misbehavior by Monsanto says otherwise about GMO.

Re: The AI industry is discovering that the public hates it

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Downsides of AI: Massive increase in RAM prices, housing crisis worsens as datacenters are build, massive energy usage, children are having trouble learning at school, spreading misinformation is easier than ever. Upsides of AI: I can ask it if my farts are caused by the celery I ate earlier

You forgot layoffs, layoffs and also layoffs.

Re: The AI industry is discovering that the public hates it

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I am very concerned by the rise of political violence in the US, and I especially don't like how much support it gets on social media. Burning down a warehouse or shooting a politician does not make you a hero.

In my book, you are a hero if you sacrifice your own well-being for the utilitarian good of the public. Many people here would call Putin's assassin a hero, the important distinguishing factor is whether it's a clear societal good or bad. If it's unclear then it's assumed bad. I am not disagreeing with you here. But platitudes do nothing to convince people. You need to actually explain why the world is a better place…

Violence isn't going to give you the quick answer you think it will.

Once you start shooting, everyone starts shooting. Bystanders get hit. Companies start defending their businesses with private armies. The economy collapses. We all lose.

Countries high in political violence are the worst places in the world to live.

Re: The AI industry is discovering that the public hates it

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The mobilizers, in this case, are almost entirely the people leading and deploying AI rather than any anti-AI agitators. When someone hears from these leaders that there will be a white-collar "bloodbath", then sees enshittification in their daily lives from misapplication of the tech, can no longer trust any newly published photo, etc., it's the most rational response.

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Re: The AI industry is discovering that the public hates it

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Gee I wonder why? Could it be because they promised to improve our lives but instead we are losing our jobs? Or maybe because there is insane shortage of electronics for the sake of AI data center? No, I think it should be the fact that this tech consumes more power than an average city. Actually, it must the fact that we have autonomous killing drones now. Or maybe it’s the misinformation slop? Nah, it should be the mass stealing of intellectual property.

I’m honestly baffled. What’s there not to like?

Re: The AI industry is discovering that the public hates it

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GMOs too. Completely unjustified backlash for a technology with incredible potential.

Don’t even. Unlike vaccines, the patent misbehavior by Monsanto says otherwise about GMO.

That's not an issue with GMOs. That's an issue with patents and attempts to restrict replanting.

Re: The AI industry is discovering that the public hates it

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Aren't these types of incidents only expected to rise, as inequality and economic challenges are on the rise, what are hungry, bored, lonely and neglected people going to do? This isn't a surprise - we have neglected American health, wellbeing and happiness and then are telling them "AI is going to come trust us its different this time" and yet for most people their lives get worse as AI company shareholders/employee…

Yes. Other potential macro-contributing factors may include: breakdown in local community, removal of community forums for discussion, attention economy and tabloid journalism gravitating toward emotional reaction (TikTok) rather than intellectual dialogue (balanced journalism), social media echo chambers, removal of accessible popular education, defunding of public media, unaffordable public access to medicine, credit culture, increasingly unaffordable costs of living and abnormally performative political dioramas. The net result are people, unable to reason about the world around them, drawn in to emotional us-and-them with a dialogue of echo-chamber reinforcement, who decide semi-rationally to "chuck it all in" the second things get out of control financially, psychologically or emotionally. In other words, the modern world has built a perfect breeding ground for recruitment to extremism. Great time to start a cult.

Re: The AI industry is discovering that the public hates it

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Are they? I heard a presentation from some pro-AI people on Friday to the large company I work at. They said they surveyed people at an AI conference and 93% of people were excited about it. This was said with a straight face like “people love puppies!”. No self awareness at all.

In consulting firms and corporations you kind of have to pretend to be into it, it's just the culture.

Re: The AI industry is discovering that the public hates it

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Political polarization create tribalism, where people align their view with their tribe, and justify an increasingly more escalatory means to fight the "other side".

Other potential macro-contributing factors may include: breakdown in local community, removal of community forums for discussion, attention economy and tabloid journalism gravitating toward emotional reaction (TikTok) rather than intellectual dialogue (balanced journalism), social media echo chambers, removal of accessible popular education, defunding of public media, unaffordable public access to medicine, credit cu…

It got flagged because the people who are pro-violence flag any comments that disagree with them, so they get hidden.

Re: The AI industry is discovering that the public hates it

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Downsides of AI: Massive increase in RAM prices, housing crisis worsens as datacenters are build, massive energy usage, children are having trouble learning at school, spreading misinformation is easier than ever. Upsides of AI: I can ask it if my farts are caused by the celery I ate earlier

Sometimes it even gets the answer right, too.
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