Recently I checked back on Notion after a year or so of not seeing it. I was going to recommend it to someone as an example of hypertext, but I see now it calls itself an "AI workplace that works for you" and "Your AI everything app". This company means nothing now, seriously what happened.
Notion leaks email addresses of all editors of any public page
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#32It has been an issue for at least 5 years. I remember one dude from HN deanonymized me around 5 years ago by looking at my notion page.
Looks like we're gonna have to go full CIA mode and shift into maximum OPSEC if we want any semblance of privacy. Gotta compartmentalize everything...
Good luck with that. Companies simply don't want to invest in security. It's simply cheaper to write a post-mortem and apology blog post after the fact.
The sad thing is that people are used by now that anything they enter on a website is sooner or later going to be leaked, if not sold as if often happens with email addresses.
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#33Big companys need to start caring more security and privacy of its users and employees
People need to start voting in politicians who will meaningfully punish corporations who don't.
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#34Very timely. I literally ran a Claude prompt "compare and contrast Notion vs Obsidian" and flipped over to HN while it was thinking, and this comes up. Thanks HN!
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#35Very timely. I literally ran a Claude prompt "compare and contrast Notion vs Obsidian" and flipped over to HN while it was thinking, and this comes up. Thanks HN!
For a personal knowledge base? I would stay far away from anything proprietary for personal notes. I love logseq though I'm increasingly worried it's abandonware
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looks like we're gonna have to go full CIA mode and shift into maximum OPSEC if we want any semblance of privacy. Gotta compartmentalize everything...
Interesting that people immediately think of workarounds instead of rejecting the governments and corporations behind the thing. Year by year Overton Window moves, workarounds become more and more involved and eventually people will give up and become just living datapoints on corporate/government dashboard.
Rejecting the government is insurrection, it's the same as becoming a terrorist.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
the answer to that is a functional social safety net for the innocent employees to land in, not allowing companies to violate the law with impunity.
You’re describing a system where taxpayers foot the bill for data breaches.
We already are in a system where we foot most of the consequences.
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#38Recently I checked back on Notion after a year or so of not seeing it. I was going to recommend it to someone as an example of hypertext, but I see now it calls itself an "AI workplace that works for you" and "Your AI everything app". This company means nothing now, seriously what happened.
Maybe I'm a computer nerd. But I know Unix and I'm so happy that I can avoid such software in my daily life.
Re: Notion leaks email addresses of all editors of any public page
#39Recently I checked back on Notion after a year or so of not seeing it. I was going to recommend it to someone as an example of hypertext, but I see now it calls itself an "AI workplace that works for you" and "Your AI everything app". This company means nothing now, seriously what happened.
> I was going to recommend it to someone as an example of hypertext
What does this mean?
Re: Notion leaks email addresses of all editors of any public page
#40Very timely. I literally ran a Claude prompt "compare and contrast Notion vs Obsidian" and flipped over to HN while it was thinking, and this comes up. Thanks HN!
For a personal knowledge base? I would stay far away from anything proprietary for personal notes. I love logseq though I'm increasingly worried it's abandonware
Obsidian is at least storing in markdown. Although some plugins probably add additional formatting that isn't standard.