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The purist's guide to phở in Hanoi

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Re: The purist's guide to phở in Hanoi

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post #28

For us Americans who can’t make it out to Vietnam, I’ve found the best Pho in the US is in Orange County, CA and Boston’s Dorchester neighborhood!

You are missing out on San Jose. It has the largest population Vietnamese diaspora.

Could you please share a list of your favorites in San Jose/Bay Area?

In San Francisco I love having pho in Chinatown. Golden Star Vietnamese Restaurant, Sai's Vietnamese, and Golden Flower are the ones I like the most.

Re: The purist's guide to phở in Hanoi

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post #16

I've never been to Vietnam but there's a Hanoi-style pho place by me and it is head and shoulders better than any other pho I've ever had in the US. Apparently most pho in the US is southern Vietnamese style?

Agree, I happened upon one in SF and was amused at the insistence there will be none of the bean sprouts, basil, etc. in South Vietnamese style. Although I do love those toppings, I agree this was the best I've had.

Re: The purist's guide to phở in Hanoi

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I've traveled to Hanoi and absolutely loved the phở there. One perk of living in Berlin is the exceptional Phở we get here. Thanks to the large Vietnamese community we have great phở, Bahn mí (esp at the Dong Xuan center). The phở we get here is top tier too, as confirmed by my Vietnamese friends.

There's a Bahn mí place in Manchester, UK that does my fav one ever

Re: The purist's guide to phở in Hanoi

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are missing out on San Jose. It has the largest population Vietnamese diaspora.

Could you please share a list of your favorites in San Jose/Bay Area? In San Francisco I love having pho in Chinatown. Golden Star Vietnamese Restaurant, Sai's Vietnamese, and Golden Flower are the ones I like the most.

There are so many Vietnamese restaurants in San Jose it's really more similar to the Hanoi recommendation: you just have to experiment until you find the ones that resonate with your personal tastes. I recommend searching reddit for "best pho in San Jose" -- you'll find a number of threads, many of which feature similar sets of restaurants.

Re: The purist's guide to phở in Hanoi

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In Orange County, CA there is another variant of pho ga kho, which literally translates to dried chicken pho. The rice noodles and chicken are stir fried, and served with a side of pho ga broth, and a sweet soy sauce.

Pho Dakao, 16171 Brookhurst St, Fountain Valley, CA 92708, United States

Also I got a recipe for pho ga from my aunt which is:

* 6 chicken legs, and 2 bone in breasts (or debone a whole chicken)

* Bring a pot of water to boil

* Parboil all pieces for 2 minutes, throw away the broth

* Char onion and ginger (in an air fryer or on a gas stove - air fryer is easier)

* Toast coriander seeds and star anise

* Add all ingredients back, bring to boil, then drop to a low simmer, and salt

* After 30 minutes remove the pieces, let it cool and debone

* Add the chicken bones back, cook for additional 30 minutes, season with salt and msg

* Optionally serve with a side of nuoc cham, but this variation has no fish sauce in the stock

How well this turns out depends on the quality of the chicken you buy. At the Asian markets, there are different breeds of chicken which have less meat, but are more flavorful.

Re: The purist's guide to phở in Hanoi

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post #11

>How, the novice may ask, does one discover which version is the correct one for oneself? >There is nothing else to it – you must eat a few hundred bowls of phở and find out. If this requires moving to Hanoi, so be it. Not the worst life plan, to be honest! A little bit sad that my own "death bed pho" - chicken pho from that one stall near the market in old quarter - gets just a passing mention as the only acceptable…

My wife, who doesn't eat beef, once asked for chicken pho, and got an extreme talking to. She was sad because she had good chicken pho in the past.

My partner is Vietnamese, and also a chef. I've had every variation of pho one can think of. There is a group of snobs who think they authoritatively own the opinion and can only think of a single acceptable recipe (or chef, for that matter).

But let them be so limited on their own. This isn't a religion. It's a big world out there, and there are a gazillion awesome phos in it.

Re: The purist's guide to phở in Hanoi

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post #2

Disappointing that there was not a single picture in the post. And, wow, it’s long!

There’s a small mention of beef bones having been customarily thrown away and I have doubts that that could be true at all levels of society - unless there was some Vietnamese cultural thing against it that no longer exists.
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