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Official Clojure Documentary page with Video, Shownotes, and Links

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Hiring good talent was always problematic. This has nothing to do with the quality, capacity, and robustness of the language or its relevance. Hiring people who would love to use Clojure but have no prior experience is not that difficult - it's just that every company wants an expert, but they don't want to offer expert salaries. In places where they do, the competition is nuts, on top of that, experienced Clojurista…

I've had Clojure on my resume for 10 years, mainly to see if anyone would ask about it. Nobody ever has, until an interview a couple days ago. We'll see if it actually helps in leading to an offer, I guess.

I have the opposite experience - been using Clojure for over a decade and it feels like only that mattered for the last five jobs. Even though it's really only just one of many layers that required to do the job. I honestly would love to find a non-clj team and convince them to use it. There are so many useful scripts we write in babaska alone, it just sounds wasteful not to use that path, fully knowing of its existence.

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Are you watching the same thing I am? What AI slop?

I think they mean the video thumbnail, which may or may not be AI-generated.

At least the cult repo folks said on LinkedIn that it is not, which tbh is surprising.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/emmalouisetracey_one-of-my-fa...

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You know there's a saying in Russian, that roughly translates to: "an expert surgeon is capable of helping a bad dancer", which is on itself is a reference to another idiom: "a bad dancer always blames his own balls". That's quickly becoming befitting for cases like this - so often people rush to blame AI without even trying to use their own reasoning. I don't know what to say, hope you find a good surgeon, because i…

"A good craftsman doesn't blame his tools" might be the western equivalent.

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In a previous life, I wrote Clojure every day and still look back fondly attending Clojure/Conj and sitting next to Rich Hickey and other Clojure greats at dinner. My first startup was all Clojure. AWS only had a dozen or two products and I think we must have been the first to compile Clojure to JS and run it on Lambda in production (the only runtime was Node.js 0.10 at the time). Anyway, I cannot wait to watch this

What are you using now? how do you feel about clojure now?

Re: Official Clojure Documentary page with Video, Shownotes, and Links

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In a previous life, I wrote Clojure every day and still look back fondly attending Clojure/Conj and sitting next to Rich Hickey and other Clojure greats at dinner. My first startup was all Clojure. AWS only had a dozen or two products and I think we must have been the first to compile Clojure to JS and run it on Lambda in production (the only runtime was Node.js 0.10 at the time). Anyway, I cannot wait to watch this

How do you feel about it now? Like holistically.

I miss it. I’m now more removed and building software as a means to an end.

I miss it just like I miss the program language and type theory group meetups in SF and working through problems in dependently types languages like Idris and being out of my depth.

Re: Official Clojure Documentary page with Video, Shownotes, and Links

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In a previous life, I wrote Clojure every day and still look back fondly attending Clojure/Conj and sitting next to Rich Hickey and other Clojure greats at dinner. My first startup was all Clojure. AWS only had a dozen or two products and I think we must have been the first to compile Clojure to JS and run it on Lambda in production (the only runtime was Node.js 0.10 at the time). Anyway, I cannot wait to watch this

What are you using now? how do you feel about clojure now?

I’m no longer in a professional engineering position and have a family and toddler so less time for learning about or playing with program languages. Clojure is what really made me first start thinking about programming languages and down the rabbit hole of scala and Haskell and idris and type theory books. Which are incredible and I can’t recommend more and also not remotely practical.

Re: Official Clojure Documentary page with Video, Shownotes, and Links

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What are you using now? how do you feel about clojure now?

I’m no longer in a professional engineering position and have a family and toddler so less time for learning about or playing with program languages. Clojure is what really made me first start thinking about programming languages and down the rabbit hole of scala and Haskell and idris and type theory books. Which are incredible and I can’t recommend more and also not remotely practical.

> also not remotely practical.

studying them makes you smarter, which makes you better at using the practical stuff.

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I don't think it is, considering they highlighted it in a post about human craft [1]. I read somewhere it was illustrated by felipemelo.net, but can't find the reference anymore [1]: https://bsky.app/profile/cultrepo.bsky.social/post/3mjhubrh3...

It'll be interesting to learn whether it was AI-generated. It certainly SEEMS like it is. It has a few "tells": - two belts and two Clojure logo belt buckles - same code repeated on the steps (odd artistic choice if made by the artist) - the seemingly out-of-place scarf, stylistically its color/pattern doesn't seem to fit Either way, it seems like an homage to this Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom poster: https:/…

That wouldn't be very interesting at all. It's just a thumbnail on a niche programming documentary

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Are you watching the same thing I am? What AI slop?

I think they mean the video thumbnail, which may or may not be AI-generated.

Rich commented in one of the comments under the video pointing the same thing and he says it is not AI generated

Re: Official Clojure Documentary page with Video, Shownotes, and Links

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I've had Clojure on my resume for 10 years, mainly to see if anyone would ask about it. Nobody ever has, until an interview a couple days ago. We'll see if it actually helps in leading to an offer, I guess.

I have the opposite experience - been using Clojure for over a decade and it feels like only that mattered for the last five jobs. Even though it's really only just one of many layers that required to do the job. I honestly would love to find a non-clj team and convince them to use it. There are so many useful scripts we write in babaska alone, it just sounds wasteful not to use that path, fully knowing of its existe…

Can you talk more about those scripts, what are you using it for?
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