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Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

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Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

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Good, because I was seriously considering returning to NZ out of fear of being drafted into a war.

The usual suspect would first need to cross Poland, not to mention finishing what they started in Ukraine.

I'll be scrolling HN from the trenches long before any army reaches Berlin.

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

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We are told that we are in a state of preparing for war. When we will start restricting luxury items, unnecessary private jet travel, energy waste in crypto-currencies, etc.? Because it seems that for being so obsessed to be prepared for war the only ones affected are the working class. The rich are just wasting resources away like if there was no tomorrow. I just see austerity 2.0 to cut citizens rights, cut service…

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I guess we're living in two different areas of Europe. And regarding the last point:

> And the EU regime plans what? To send European military age men to die in a faraway foreign country fighting for foreign interests while their homes and way of living are under attack.

First of all, there is no "EU regime", only countries threatened by Russia daily, which decided they need to increase their defence spending to deter Russia. Europe collectively decided NOT to send people "to die in a faraway foreign country fighting for foreign interests" in spite of Trump's pressure to do so.

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

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post #11

We are told that we are in a state of preparing for war. When we will start restricting luxury items, unnecessary private jet travel, energy waste in crypto-currencies, etc.? Because it seems that for being so obsessed to be prepared for war the only ones affected are the working class. The rich are just wasting resources away like if there was no tomorrow. I just see austerity 2.0 to cut citizens rights, cut service…

The only thing we can do is refuse to participate. Europe no longer needs its people, our governments have demonstrated clearly that the average person is irrelevant and replaceable. Our industries have been sold off and outsourced, we no longer make anything except spreadsheets to enable globalists and asset stripping private equity parasites. Our history and diversity has been deemed non-sacrosanct, if some other c…

> Refuse to fight.

How would that change any of the stuff you lament?

Even the worst imaginable invasion would change little for the elites but a lot more for everybody else.

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

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I cannot understand how German men can be expected to fight while women are exempt. It's pure sexism against men and also very insulting to women.

I'm opposed to conscription in general, but I live in Sweden with gender-neutral conscription laws, and I would do my best to defend my country if it became necessary. If I were a man in an alternate version of Sweden with male-only conscription, I would feel so disrespected and devalued by the state that I couldn't imagine myself defending it, so I would either join a non-state-affiliated resistance group or flee the country.

If I lived in Germany right now (even as a woman, but especially as a man), I would seriously consider emigrating to a more egalitarian country as soon as possible.

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

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post #31

Good, because I was seriously considering returning to NZ out of fear of being drafted into a war.

The usual suspect would first need to cross Poland, not to mention finishing what they started in Ukraine. I'll be scrolling HN from the trenches long before any army reaches Berlin.

> The usual suspect would first need to cross Poland, not to mention finishing what they started in Ukraine.

It doesn't look like they can break Ukraine anytime soon. And each month Ukraine bites back pushing the prospect of full-scale war with NATO (or what is left of it) even further.

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

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whats the deal here with the genitals? normal part of life, and having someone check if theres nothing weird/curious in a full body health check doesn't sound unreasonable. was okay for me too. and girls do get their private parts inspected deeper every year at the female health docs than once in a lifetime ball touching from some drafter, different level, just accept it

Don't be ridiculous. You really don't see a difference between someone choosing to see a doctor for their own benefit and the state forcing someone to be subjected to an examination for the state's benefit?

Nobody should accept gender discrimination or being touched without consent.

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

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post #11

We are told that we are in a state of preparing for war. When we will start restricting luxury items, unnecessary private jet travel, energy waste in crypto-currencies, etc.? Because it seems that for being so obsessed to be prepared for war the only ones affected are the working class. The rich are just wasting resources away like if there was no tomorrow. I just see austerity 2.0 to cut citizens rights, cut service…

>> Because it seems that for being so obsessed to be prepared for war the only ones affected are the working class.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWijx_AgPiA

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

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post #31

Good, because I was seriously considering returning to NZ out of fear of being drafted into a war.

The usual suspect would first need to cross Poland, not to mention finishing what they started in Ukraine. I'll be scrolling HN from the trenches long before any army reaches Berlin.

Poland are in Nato, I'd expect europe wide deployment on an invasion. Itll definitely be volunteer forces at first, but I wouldn't hold my breath on conscripted forces never being deployed if it goes into a quagmire like ukraine.

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

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I cannot understand how German men can be expected to fight while women are exempt. It's pure sexism against men and also very insulting to women. I'm opposed to conscription in general, but I live in Sweden with gender-neutral conscription laws, and I would do my best to defend my country if it became necessary. If I were a man in an alternate version of Sweden with male-only conscription, I would feel so disrespect…

At the risk of feeding this troll, I'll go for it here.

Men and women are essentially different in real biological ways, as well as emotional and socialization.

For millennia, women and children have been held innocent and protected. This is why Christian societies don't throw them on the frontlines as cannon fodder, but rather, the men go in front and the men fight, as expendables, while the woman and children can be protected far behind the front lines of any conflict.

Women can bear children, feed their infants, and care for families even while men are occupied or absent. Women are much more capable of restarting a civilization even when the men are decimated. It is a very logical and pragmatic decision to protect women and children from warfare and violence.

Conversely, armies of female warriors have enjoyed legendary status as especially fierce and undefeated. How many of us have enjoyed "Wonder Woman", "Calafia", Amazons, and the rest?

Furthermore, a soldier may be victimized by rape. SA of a male has different consequences than SA of a mature woman. You can imagine that a woman who becomes pregnant faces difficult decisions for the rest of her life. Again, the expendable nature of men makes us less susceptible to SA and ransom plots and other manipulation by the enemy.

So the trouble today, is that women are "empowered by equality" and demand every right and privilege that is due to men, and that extends to dirty horrible jobs, and fighting in combat. Women who are empowered by equality are also going to be subjected to responsibilities and duties that they didn't have before. Societies are simply coming up with no other choice but to put women in combat, because the women are doing every other job and it seems absurd to hold back.

Naturally, putting women in harm's way, and even conscripting them, eventually seems necessary if the adversary is doing it too. I am not sure that our Islamic or East Asian adversaries are doing this, but perhaps Westerners believe that we can thus gain the upper hand. I propose that it will disadvantage and disgrace us instead.

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