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Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

#33

We need to dispel this notion that top open source contributors need to know anything about the project or even make contributions to it That is a very 2025 mindset

sadly, I legitimately hear colleagues (ugh) say things like this in [current year]

Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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post #7

Is anyone surprised? I'm reminded of how I felt during the NFT craze. LLMs are extremely powerful when used with deliberate care. Gas Town is the exact opposite of what is needed to actually do useful things in prod. I guess good on Steve for doing what he does so well, and getting so much hype around a vibe coded mess.

> I guess good on Steve for doing what he does so well, and getting so much hype around a vibe coded mess.

Shit coin aside, I don't get the hate for Gastown, we all know its theoretically plausible and he's giving it a shot. We get value either way, either we learn its not just theory or we get to watch it burn in the flames of a legal/financial/security/maintenance nightmare for its practitioners.

Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

#35
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh, he stole a bunch of money with a crypto rugpull, can’t really give him the benefit of the doubt anymore.

"I am giving every cent of that crypto money to charity" - https://twitter.com/Steve_Yegge/status/2044114434348724351

If stolen via a crypto rugpull, it wasn't his to give to begin with.

Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

#36

iono if “steal” has the right valence here

Eh, he stole a bunch of money with a crypto rugpull, can’t really give him the benefit of the doubt anymore.

Oh yikes, I had no idea it was that bad...

https://steve-yegge.medium.com/bags-and-the-creator-economy-...

Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how that is relevant? If he really did steal that money, it's not his to give. You can't take someone's money and then not only not give it back, but also give it away.

from my admittedly brief research into it, $GAS was sending him transaction fees, as it desired the association. So it wasn't him selling a tangible number of coins to a particular person. So I figure to pay it back, he'd have to trace down the owners of every tx and pay them back the tx fee. Perhaps that's easy, perhaps its non-trivial. According to the tweet[0] he made yesterday, in order to donate the combined fun…

Poor him. He is so inconvenienced in this whole process of returning money that's not his

Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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Based on my understanding of Gas Town, Beads, and Yegge's philosophy on AI that he's expressed in a variety of media, everything about the whole stack is designed to burn tokens. If you're not burning tokens, real fast, 24/7, you're losing the race. The race to where, I have no idea. Apparently, that includes him burning your tokens, too.
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