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Farmer arrested for speaking too long at datacenter town hall vows to fight
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Re: Farmer arrested for speaking too long at datacenter town hall vows to fight
#32I don't know what he was speaking on at the data center town hall but the followup was a "No Turbines Rally" showing people with "Stop Wind Now" signs. Let's maybe skip this round of 404media ragebait.
"Everyone complaining about things I like, but is located in their communities, is a crank, except when I'm complaining about stuff in my own community."
Re: Farmer arrested for speaking too long at datacenter town hall vows to fight
#33From the article, here is the recording of the meeting:
https://www.youtube.com/live/xLPF3rTT0mY
The event in question can be seen around 1:56:00 through 2:00:00 (approx)
Re: Farmer arrested for speaking too long at datacenter town hall vows to fight
#34The article keeps saying he was arrested for going a few seconds over, which is weird because it also contains this statement: "Feary then notified police to have Blanchard removed. I informed Blanchard that he was asked to leave and needed to do so. Blanchard then continued to the front of the room where counselors sat behind a table and insisted on giving them paperwork,” according to the police report. “Sergeant S…
That's pretty typical of 404 Media's reporting style.
Re: Farmer arrested for speaking too long at datacenter town hall vows to fight
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're taking the article as gospel. Is there any video for the lead up to the arrest? There was a reddit post with this video, and the poster claimed that he refused to leave the podium after his time was up. Not saying that is true, but it sounds different than "spoke a few seconds too long" https://www.reddit.com/r/ObscurePatentDangers/comments/1shsu...
Why "gospel"? Why not "at face value"? What is the purpose of portraying a perfectly normal interpretation as irrational? There's nothing wrong with assuming a writeup is factually true until proven otherwise. We couldn't even speak to each other if that weren't the case.
Because the original claim was extraordinary it required extraordinary evidence.
Re: Farmer arrested for speaking too long at datacenter town hall vows to fight
#36He was not arrested for speaking too long. He was arrested for trespassing after being asked to leave. This occurred after speaking too long, but the speaking too long is not the reason for the arrest.
Look, the article is right there, and what it says doesn't match what you're saying. Sure, they arrested him for "trespassing", but their definition of trespassing was going over his allotted time by a matter of seconds. They did not ask him to leave, and he refused. They counted down the seconds he had the floor, and ordered his arrest the moment he went over the allotted time. I don't know if you've ever been to a…
The article wants a login, so I found a different one: https://www.newson6.com/tulsa-oklahoma-news/arrest-made-duri...
According to that article, he went over time, left the podium, had some words with the council and police, then was handcuffed and escorted out.
The police say that he was asked to leave by the council and refused. Then he was asked to leave by the police and also refused. At that point he was arrested for trespassing. I see no reason to doubt this version of events.
Asking him to leave sounds like an overstep, depending on what he said to them. But if it happened as that article described, it's probably not a First Amendment issue, definitely not an egregious violation.
I apologize for doing independent research on the topic. In the future I'll be sure to stick to the bits of the linked article that I can see.
Re: Farmer arrested for speaking too long at datacenter town hall vows to fight
#37He was not arrested for speaking too long. He was arrested for trespassing after being asked to leave. This occurred after speaking too long, but the speaking too long is not the reason for the arrest.
Sure man. Nothing says "hacker ethos" like arresting a citizen for going 3 seconds over their allotted free speech time. There are so many bootlickers here on HN these days. A sign of the times, I suppose. But of course, what else can we expect? This is the natural consequence of putting ethics and morality after money. Money always wins. And once you start seeing the world like that, through the lens of "success mak…
Again, that is not what happened. He went over time. He left the podium. He stopped and talked to the council. He was asked to leave. He refused. The police asked him to leave. At that point he made the decision to leave in handcuffs rather than in the normal fashion.
Asking him to leave sounds likely to be an abuse, but it's a far cry from "arresting a citizen for going 3 seconds over their allotted free speech time."
Re: Farmer arrested for speaking too long at datacenter town hall vows to fight
#38He was not arrested for speaking too long. He was arrested for trespassing after being asked to leave. This occurred after speaking too long, but the speaking too long is not the reason for the arrest.
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It means that facts matter and the headline is a lie. He was not arrested for speaking too long. He was asked to leave, refused, asked again, refused, and was arrested. Asking him to leave may have been an abuse, but it's a pretty minor one compared to what the headline says.
Re: Farmer arrested for speaking too long at datacenter town hall vows to fight
#39The article keeps saying he was arrested for going a few seconds over, which is weird because it also contains this statement: "Feary then notified police to have Blanchard removed. I informed Blanchard that he was asked to leave and needed to do so. Blanchard then continued to the front of the room where counselors sat behind a table and insisted on giving them paperwork,” according to the police report. “Sergeant S…
Even so that's very strange way for a trespassing charge to be carried out if that's how it went down.
Typically when someone refuses to leave, police inform the person that they are being formally trespassed, at which point they have the option to leave voluntarily at which point they are only allowed back at the trespassee's discretion. Not sure how that would work for public places where people have to conduct municipal business.
Re: Farmer arrested for speaking too long at datacenter town hall vows to fight
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're taking the article as gospel. Is there any video for the lead up to the arrest? There was a reddit post with this video, and the poster claimed that he refused to leave the podium after his time was up. Not saying that is true, but it sounds different than "spoke a few seconds too long" https://www.reddit.com/r/ObscurePatentDangers/comments/1shsu...
You're lying about what your own link says. The poster did not claim that Blanchard refused to leave the podium; the poster wrote "with * officials* claiming he refused to leave the podium after his three-minute speaking time ended". The poster is sympathetic to Blanchard, which no one would know just by reading your grossly dishonest comment.
This is quite the melodramatic post.
I wasn't even trying to make any claims about the statement because I have no idea if the poster was even there. My mere point was that "there may be more to the story than what was posted on the 404 link".
And now someone posted the full video so you can just watch that and not need to rely on "grossly dishonest" posts.