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Open Source Isn't Dead

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Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

#31
post #5

This is just an excuse to close source their project while blaming AI. Spineless bullshit excuse instead of owning your choices. Shame

I agree, it is shortsighted (next quarter syndrome). First of all the AI does not need source to find vulnerabilities and further it breaks the unwritten contract to exchange source for eyeballs which creates better source. I guess the CEO wants less security and stopped evolution of it's code.

Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

#32

All content is going to go behind paywalls. There is zero incentive or reason for content creators to let AI slurp their content for free and distribute it and get all the money from it. Everything new will be licensed and if AI companies want access to it, they will need to pay for it, just like we will.

Will it help? AI authors will just then buy those subscriptions and in the big picture it won't cost that much.

Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

#33
Closing your source doesn't close your attack surface,it just closes the community that would have helped you defend it. Security through obscurity is a kind of tradeoff, not a strategy.. i mean that's what I feel.

Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

#35
post #4
post #3

I have an open source project and started receiving a lot of security vulnerability reports in the last few months. A lot of them are extremely corner cases, but there were some legit ones. They're all fixed now. Closed source software won't receive any reports, but it will be exploited with AI. So I definitely agree with the message of this article.

> Closed source software won't receive any reports Not from the automated repo scanners, but bug bounty programs can generate a lot of reports in my experience. AI tools are becoming a problem there, too, because amateurs are drawn to the bounties and will submit anything the AI hallucinates. Closed source companies can (and should!) also run their own security audits rather than passively waiting for volunteers to s…

Those bug bounty programs now have to compete against the market for 0-days. I suppose they always did, but it seems the economics have changed in the favour of the bad actors - at least from my uninformed standpoint.

That still exists in the OSS world too, having your code out there is no panacea. I think we'll see a real swarm of security issues across the board, but I would expect the OSS world to fare better (perhaps after a painful period).

Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

#36
post #3

I have an open source project and started receiving a lot of security vulnerability reports in the last few months. A lot of them are extremely corner cases, but there were some legit ones. They're all fixed now. Closed source software won't receive any reports, but it will be exploited with AI. So I definitely agree with the message of this article.

Yes exactly! I'm so glad I took this route with my startup. We can't bury our heads in the sand and think the vulnerabilities don't exist just because we don't know about them.

Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

#37
> We are an open-source project ourselves, recently crossing 24k stars, and our framework processes over 15 billion LLM tokens daily to find software vulnerabilities.

I'm sorry, but talking Github stars comes off as borderline pathetic.

Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

#38
There is another product I use that has a freemium model. They hope to monetize a paid tier for users who use the product a lot.

In order to build trust, they open source their product. I forked it, removed the blocks from the freemium feature in 15 minutes using Claude Code. Never published the code to anyone else, just used it myself

Unfortunately, I think it isn’t going to be tenable for systems to be fully open sourced going forward.

Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

#39
post #3

I have an open source project and started receiving a lot of security vulnerability reports in the last few months. A lot of them are extremely corner cases, but there were some legit ones. They're all fixed now. Closed source software won't receive any reports, but it will be exploited with AI. So I definitely agree with the message of this article.

I’ve recently set up nightly automated pentest for my open-source project. I’m considering starting to publish these reports as proof of security posture.

If the cost of security audit becomes marginal, it would seem reasonable to expect projects to publish results of such audits frequently.

There’s probably a quite hefty backlog of medium- and low-severity issues in existing projects for maintainers to suffer through first though.

Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

#40
cofounder here

going closed source does not mean we are not fighting fire with fire

we are using a handful of internal AI vulnerability scanners for months now

being open source simply reduces risk by 5x to 10x according to several security researchers we are working with https://cal.com/blog/continuous-ai-pentesting-vulnerability-...

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