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US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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Post by varispeed »

burnt-resistor wrote: post #24
Morromist wrote: post #2

Its going to be funny when there are married 17 year olds driving cars with guns and children but who can't install linux or access facebook without calling their dad. Why are so many bi-partisan bills so bad?

This is being pushed by dark money billionaire PACs and lobbyists all over the world. Techbro feudal lords demand total control, de-anonymization of users, and monetization of such data but sell it as "think of the children" "safety". It's also why Flock is popping up to bring Big Mommy while it's using taxpayer money to force privacy elimination and mass surveillance by continuously tracking innocent people.

That also reveals true (at least) two tier law enforcement. Banana republic level of corruption is fine as long as it's called lobbying and law enforcement looks the other way.

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Post by Forbo »

Avicebron wrote: post #23
replooda wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mark Zuckerberg and such?

Yes, it's called voting with your wallet. They are better at it that you or I presumably.

Voting with your wallet doesn't exist. Try to boycott Amazon by blocking the AWS IP ranges and see how unusable the internet becomes for everyday tasks. Corporations continue to push the personal responsibility narrative so they can externalize costs of unethical business practices.

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Post by codazoda »

iamnothere wrote: post #9

At the very least, if this passes, the resulting court challenge will provide precedent that shuts it down in all 50 states at once. The downside will be riding out the intervening months before the court decision comes through. Stock up on ISOs and full git clones of your favorite OS sources.

intervening years

Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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Post by Ucalegon »

"Rep Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ) announced the Parents Decide Act, bipartisan, commonsense legislation to strengthen online protections for children and give parents greater control over what their kids can access on phones, tablets, and other devices. Gottheimer’s new Parents Decide Act will:

- Require operating system developers like Apple and Google to verify users’ ages when setting up a new device, rather than relying on self-reported ages.

- Allow parents to set age-appropriate content controls from the start, including limiting access to social media, apps, and AI platforms. - Ensure that age and parental settings securely flow to apps and AI platforms, so content is tailored appropriately for children. - Prevent children from accessing harmful or explicit content—including inappropriate AI chatbot interactions—by creating a consistent, trusted standard across platforms."

This is the summary [0] from the Benton Institute for Broadband & Society, who seem to be in support of the legislation. I get the feeling the definition of 'operating system' within the legislation isn't how many on HN, or in real life, would define what an OS is, since its implied to be aimed at mobile devices, but we shall see once the actual text is posted.

[0] https://www.benton.org/headlines/rep-gottheimer-announces-bi...

Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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Post by ipnon »

burnt-resistor wrote: post #28
ipnon wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really think left-right and honest-dishonest are useless dimensions to evaluate Congress members on. The job practically requires ideological fuzziness and truth stretching to get anything done. This is a feature: legislatures that require high ideological purity tend to become rubber stamps. DPRK is a good example.

You're bothesidesing and rationalizing a complete lack of integrity. AIPAC money, PAC money, and gold bar bribe takers are definitely corrupt and need to be in prison.

My belief is that to a large extent the art of politics is the art of bothsidesing and rationalizing away your integrity for common aims. And that when applied correctly, these common aims can be used to benefit the public. Look at systems where you can't bothesides (also known as finding common ground and compromising) or rationalize the integrity of other members (also known as acting in good faith). I suspect you will not find the results of these political bodies to have preferable results to the American Congress!

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Post by miohtama »

ranger_danger wrote: post #10
miohtama wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the opposite. This is for mass surveillance. Politicians love control and silencing anon Twitter critics.

> This is for mass surveillance Source:

Here

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47772459

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Post by verdverm »

foxfired wrote: post #5

Since voting is that power we say we have in the US. Does the public get to vote on this? If not... > Voting, we might even say, is the next to last refuge of the politically impotent. The last refuge is, of course, giving your opinion to a pollster - Neil Postman

We can also engage in direct action the other 364.9 days of the year. Call/email your representatives, go to a town hall, call the leaders of both parties of both senate and house, go to a march or protest. There are other ways we can be heard, be substantive and thoughtful, they tally and track messages which are not hyperbole or copy-paste. If you can make it personal, even better. It only needs to be a few sentences.

https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials

Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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Post by boxed »

Ucalegon wrote: post #34

"Rep Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ) announced the Parents Decide Act, bipartisan, commonsense legislation to strengthen online protections for children and give parents greater control over what their kids can access on phones, tablets, and other devices. Gottheimer’s new Parents Decide Act will: - Require operating system developers like Apple and Google to verify users’ ages when setting up a new device, rather than relyin…

Seems like legislation should come after senators and members of congress directly call Tim Cook en masse to complain that:

1. Screen time reporting has been 100% broken for decades. Just does not work as advertised. False advertising is indeed illegal.

2. The parental controls are a joke. Can't block apps that were ever downloaded by a member of the household. Don't want the kid to have TikTok? You better not have downloaded it on any device ever.

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