This is already covered in the Soylent Green protocol isn't it? An alternate take: if calorie efficiency is so important we should focus on consumption more than production.
40% of lost calories globally are from beef, needing 33 cal of feed per 1 cal
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Re: 40% of lost calories globally are from beef, needing 33 cal of feed per 1 cal
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Re: 40% of lost calories globally are from beef, needing 33 cal of feed per 1 cal
#33Not trying to be overly flippant... who cares? The paper opens with "to feed a growing population" without asking is that what we need? want? where we are actually heading to? Is feeding the world a real problem? I've yet to see compelling evidence that it really is except as a secondary effect of logistics, energy supply, and war. edit: I understand the environmental impacts. I think we should solve our energy probl…
- Nearly 90% of Americans eat red meat [1].
- Environmental activity against meat has led a lot of people (26% of Americans) to believe that there is a push to ban red meat. This issue does not poll well [1].
- Despite the above, Americans are eating less red meat than we used to [2].
- The vast majority of people who choose to reduce their meat intake do so for cost or health reasons, not environmental [3].
Putting all that together... studies like this do not help the environmental cause. Sure, they find something that's vaguely interesting, and can possibly be a bullet point on an environmentalist slide. However, a far better research study would be one focusing on human health impacts of red meat, or demonstrating economic benefits to red meat alternatives.
tl;ld - This study is not useful, and is probably damaging to it's own cause.
[1]: https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/nearly-nine-ten-ameri...
[2]: https://www.pcrm.org/news/news-releases/new-survey-reveals-r...
[3]: https://www.seattletimes.com/life/food-drink/two-thirds-of-a...
Re: 40% of lost calories globally are from beef, needing 33 cal of feed per 1 cal
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. The market should decide if beef consumption is viable. Ultimately energy is the basis all food production. Cheap and plentiful energy solves the food production and distribution problem, then its just matter of preferences.
Market also decided that the Irish could only eat potatoes.
Re: 40% of lost calories globally are from beef, needing 33 cal of feed per 1 cal
#35> population doubles
> we need the calories to feed a growing population
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#36Re: 40% of lost calories globally are from beef, needing 33 cal of feed per 1 cal
#37Actual title: Only half of the calories produced on croplands are available as food for human consumption
Re: 40% of lost calories globally are from beef, needing 33 cal of feed per 1 cal
#38Not trying to be overly flippant... who cares? The paper opens with "to feed a growing population" without asking is that what we need? want? where we are actually heading to? Is feeding the world a real problem? I've yet to see compelling evidence that it really is except as a secondary effect of logistics, energy supply, and war. edit: I understand the environmental impacts. I think we should solve our energy probl…
Agreed. The market should decide if beef consumption is viable. Ultimately energy is the basis all food production. Cheap and plentiful energy solves the food production and distribution problem, then its just matter of preferences.
Re: 40% of lost calories globally are from beef, needing 33 cal of feed per 1 cal
#39Then can human process grass?
Cattle feed is more than grass
Re: 40% of lost calories globally are from beef, needing 33 cal of feed per 1 cal
#40Not trying to be overly flippant... who cares? The paper opens with "to feed a growing population" without asking is that what we need? want? where we are actually heading to? Is feeding the world a real problem? I've yet to see compelling evidence that it really is except as a secondary effect of logistics, energy supply, and war. edit: I understand the environmental impacts. I think we should solve our energy probl…
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