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An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

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Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#31
It's nothing new, dunning kruger existing long before AI entered coding realm.

Several years ago ran into one american company which consulted with me. They had 4000 paying customers and they rolled out their billing solution which accept crypto, paypal and stripe.

They had problem with payment going missing, i migrated them to WHMCs with hardening and they never had any issues after.

Now people may laugh at whmcs but use the right tool for job

U need battle tested billing solution then whmcs does count it can support VAT, taxes, reporting/accounting and pretty all which you'll error while you try to do it all yourself.

Too bad there aren't battle tested opensource solution for this

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#33

Some people only care about actual consequences. Download all the data and send it, in the post on a flash drive, to the GDPR regulator's office and another copy to the medical licensing board because why not.

Hopefully. And I hope he wasn't dumb enough to remove himself.

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#34
I think the issue here is less about AI misbehaving and more about people doing things they should not be doing without thinking too hard about the consequences.

There are going to be a lot of accidents like this because it's just really easy to do. And some people are inevitably going to do silly things.

But it's not that different from people doing stupid things with Visual Basic back in the day. Or responding to friendly worded emails with the subject "I love you". Putting CDs/USB drives in work PCs with viruses, worms, etc.

That's what people do when you give the useful tools with sharp edges.

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#35
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Do you think if the agency hired a consultant to build this , a consultant couldn’t have made the same mistakes? Lack of security theater is a good thing for most businesses

It is possible. If you select consulting that you know nothing about, and they know nothing about programming and vibe coded it for you... and maybe you dont even have a contract to held them responsible and maybe they dont really have a company either... Then I can imagine something like this.

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#36
> All "access control" logic lived in the JavaScript on the client side, meaning the data was literally one command away from anyone who looked

This is the top!

This is a typical example of someone using Coding Agents without being a developer: AI that isn't used knowingly can be a huge risk if you don't know what you're doing.

AI used for professional purposes (not experiments) should NOT be used haphazardly.

And this also opens up a serious liability issue: the developer has the perception of being exempt from responsibility and this also leads to enormous risks for the business.

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#37
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Do you think if the agency hired a consultant to build this , a consultant couldn’t have made the same mistakes? Lack of security theater is a good thing for most businesses

There's lack of security theater and there's: > All "access control" logic lived in the JavaScript on the client side, meaning the data was literally one curl command away from anyone who looked. They are not the same thing.

You've got to wonder from where did the "AI" parroted that.

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#38

I did something similar to a local company here in Spain. Not medical, but a small insurance company. Believe it or not, yes, they vibecoded their CRM. I sent them an email and they threatened to sue me. I was a bit in shock from such dumb response, but I guess some people only learn the hard way, so I filed a report to the AEPD (Data protection agency in Spain) for starters, known to be brutal. I've also sent them a…

I'm also curious how much effort it would be to setup some OWASP tools with an agent and crawl for company tools. I'm sure I'm not the first one to think of this, but for local businesses it would give a solid rep, I suppose.

I have a feeling that next year's theme will be security. People have turned off their brain when it comes to tech.

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#39

Meanwhile on Linkedin… Every sales bozo with zero technical understanding is screaming top of their virtual lungs that evrything must be done with AI and it is solution to every layoff, economic problem, everything. It is just a matter of time when something really really bad happens.

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Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#40

Who should get jailed ? Does the company which willingly sells the polymorphic virus editor bear any responsibility, or should the unaware vibe coder be incumbent ?

We don’t blame companies selling 3D Design software or 3D printers or mortar and cement, or graph paper and pencils. When people abuse those tools and build huts or houses or bridges that fall down, we usually blame the user for not having appropriate professional qualifications, accreditation, and experience. (Very occasionally we blame bugs in simulation software tools).

AI is a tool. It’s not intelligent, and it works at a much bigger scale than bricks and mortar, but it’s still just a tool. There’s lots we can blame AI companies for, but abuse of the tool isn’t a clear-cut situation. We should blame them for misleading marketing. But we should also blame users (who are often highly intelligent - eg doctors) for using it outside their ability. Much like doctors are fed up of patients using AI to try to act like doctors, software engineers are now finding out what it’s like when clients try to use AI to act like software engineers.

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