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Viktor Orbán concedes defeat after 'painful' election result

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Re: Viktor Orbán concedes defeat after 'painful' election result

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Post by ceejayoz »

cmxch wrote: post #22

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Gosh, financial support for one of the candidates by an outsider would be horrible, right? https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1163823353301...

> My Administration stands ready to use the full Economic Might of the United States to strengthen Hungary’s Economy, as we have done for our Great Allies in the past, if Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and the Hungarian People ever need it. We are excited to invest in the future Prosperity that will be generated by Orbán’s continued Leadership! President DONALD J. TRUMP

edit: OP's post originally complained that this was Soros's fault.

Re: Viktor Orbán concedes defeat after 'painful' election result

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Post by orwin »

flopsamjetsam wrote: post #18
jacquesm wrote: post #7

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Time will tell. Keep in mind that his successor was part of Orban's party in the past.

I don't know much about him, only that he was in the same party. I have heard that he is pro-EU and anti-Russia though, is that true?

Yes, he basically have the same views, except on Russia. One advantage though is that Orban put his people at the head of Hungary corporations, so maybe that will end and the corruption will be kept at "normal" levels.

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Post by jacquesm »

lysace wrote: post #27
jacquesm wrote: post #7

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Time will tell. Keep in mind that his successor was part of Orban's party in the past.

From your perspective as afaik nowadays a Californian progressive: Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

Yes, that's true. But there is enough about Magyar that I don't understand that I'm cautiously optimistic. Though it would be hard to imagine worse than Orban...

JD Vance strikes again. I wonder how long it will take US politicians and assorted billionaires to realize that their 'endorsements' will backfire.

Re: Viktor Orbán concedes defeat after 'painful' election result

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Post by quantummagic »

patcon wrote: post #21
quantummagic wrote: post #12

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From the perspective of a Canadian, this feels like an absolutely mad-cap crazy comment. What did you live through? EDIT: with as little judgement as I'm sincerely trying to have, I would strongly recommend reviewing your information diet and neurotypical predispositions to investigate why you might believe this. (E.g. I am predisposed to support an underdog, and need to gutcheck myself on that regularly)

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Re: Viktor Orbán concedes defeat after 'painful' election result

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Post by jacquesm »

flopsamjetsam wrote: post #18
jacquesm wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Time will tell. Keep in mind that his successor was part of Orban's party in the past.

I don't know much about him, only that he was in the same party. I have heard that he is pro-EU and anti-Russia though, is that true?

Pro-EU: probably. Anti-Russia: also probably.

For both: I prefer to see it all rather than to assume it will be fine. Oh, and we still have Fico to deal with. But at least Hungarians have chosen against Orban that in itself gives some hope. Those leaked phone calls that were made public in the last weeks were very damning, I always assumed that such stuff was going on but to have hard proof is on another level.

I wonder what they're going to do with the participants. And what Orban's plans are now that he's in the opposition. I would not count him out just yet, he's got Putin's backing and you can bet they'll work overtime to try to destabilize Magyar's government. The rot goes pretty deep and it will take a lot of work to undo all that damage.

Re: Viktor Orbán concedes defeat after 'painful' election result

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Post by ceejayoz »

quantummagic wrote: post #37
patcon wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the perspective of a Canadian, this feels like an absolutely mad-cap crazy comment. What did you live through? EDIT: with as little judgement as I'm sincerely trying to have, I would strongly recommend reviewing your information diet and neurotypical predispositions to investigate why you might believe this. (E.g. I am predisposed to support an underdog, and need to gutcheck myself on that regularly)

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Sure. Just like Hitler offing himself; just an expression of trust in the system! "Oh no, I lost in the marketplace of ideas, time to make the ultimate concession!"
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