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Women are getting most of the new jobs. What's going on with men?

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Re: Women are getting most of the new jobs. What's going on with men?

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Citation needed, bad faith suspected. Even adjusted for maternity and career entry/exit differences, the gender pay gap is still big and real. And while there is overlap and outliers, many more women-dominated industries are at lower pay segments (and with fewer benefits) than industries dominated by men.

How about adjusted for people who are welding things underwater or throwing 25 kilo garbage bins into a truck?

Re: Women are getting most of the new jobs. What's going on with men?

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people are only starting to care because really bad things happen when you start to get a large portion of the male population being disenfranchised.

Point of no return.

There will be more fires and at least one rich person will be eaten.

Re: Women are getting most of the new jobs. What's going on with men?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 1. Give massive preferential treatment to women during university "Some schools are trying to attract male applicants by improving their sports programs; others invest more heavily in buying boys’ email addresses or give incentives to boys that they do not offer to girls — such as free stickers or baseball caps — for filling out information on the school website. Marketing materials are sometimes designed to speak…

No one believes anything the NYT says.

It's not the NYT making the claims, they are merely reporting on them. And I think it's weird to just dismiss all evidence that conflicts with your priors. But fine, how about the NY Post:

https://nypost.com/2025/09/11/us-news/schools-may-be-using-a...

Or how about this quote from a former admissions officer at Brandeis:

"We might admit the male student and wait-list the female student because of wanting to get closer to this sort of gender parity in terms of percentages in the class."

https://hechingerreport.org/an-unnoticed-result-of-the-decli...

Re: Women are getting most of the new jobs. What's going on with men?

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Citation needed, bad faith suspected. Even adjusted for maternity and career entry/exit differences, the gender pay gap is still big and real. And while there is overlap and outliers, many more women-dominated industries are at lower pay segments (and with fewer benefits) than industries dominated by men.

Is this even relevant to their post?

The article is pretty clear, Women are getting most of the new jobs because they're in fields that Men largely don't try to enter (ex. Teaching).

Like whats the big initiative to increase the amount of Women with a Masters of Education? I've heard of a bunch for STEM but Men still dominate that field but that field is growing slower than other Women dominated ones so it's a non-sequitor.

Re: Women are getting most of the new jobs. What's going on with men?

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It's frustrating that the only suggestion the experts interviewed have here is essentially blue-washing woman-dominated jobs. "For instance, many health care jobs could be framed as roles requiring the strength to lift people. Preschools could highlight the need for teachers who serve as positive male role models." Just reads as that one SMBC comic - "how can we make math pink ?" As if the only way they can understan…

Psychiatric wards certainly benefit from burly guy nurses with good social skills and nerves of steel.

Re: Women are getting most of the new jobs. What's going on with men?

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people are only starting to care because really bad things happen when you start to get a large portion of the male population being disenfranchised.

Yep. A bunch of unemployed and "unempowered" men sitting around leads to them thinking things like: "Maybe we shouldn't be so cooperative anymore."

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Re: Women are getting most of the new jobs. What's going on with men?

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post #32

people are only starting to care because really bad things happen when you start to get a large portion of the male population being disenfranchised.

Point of no return. There will be more fires and at least one rich person will be eaten.

this is far too optimistic

Re: Women are getting most of the new jobs. What's going on with men?

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> The lopsidedness was driven by huge growth in health care, where women hold nearly 80% of jobs. Over the past 12 months, health care alone added 390,000 jobs, more than in the economy overall, making up for job losses elsewhere. i.e. Nursing jobs mostly go to women not because men can’t do them because “nurses aren’t men”, per our current cultural norms.

The job itself caters to the natural disposition of women much more than men. That said, having a some male nurses in every hospital to me is mandatory. You need men in those teams for various reasons. But overall the job caters to women.

I also believe the number of female primary care physicians recently surpassed men. Or at least in Family Medicine, or something like that.

Re: Women are getting most of the new jobs. What's going on with men?

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> Now Reeves says what's needed are policies and programs to draw male workers into fields such as nursing, teaching and social work. This is also true for an entirely different reason: all three of these fields would benefit hugely from having more balanced gender ratios

Almost like diversity, equality and inclusion is a net positive thing for everyone

That would be true if those ideals were applied in alignment with liberal values. However, the most common material form of DEI is rooted in postmodernism and its various offshoot theories (queer theory, critical race theory, intersectionality, post-colonial theory, etc) in which colourblindness is inherently racist.

So, no, not really.

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