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OpenAI puts Stargate UK on ice, blames energy costs and red tape

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Re: OpenAI puts Stargate UK on ice, blames energy costs and red tape

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Elon called it when this was announced. Sam never had the money. Interesting to contrast those two characters. I think Sam is somewhat sociopathic, smooth salesman, not very technical, will say whatever needs to be said to get what he wants. Elon is on the spectrum and has bad social judgement and is just immature in a lot of ways, is very direct and means what he says when he says it, even if it's often unrealistic…

tl;dr - "Which turd is more polished?"

Re: OpenAI puts Stargate UK on ice, blames energy costs and red tape

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Re: OpenAI puts Stargate UK on ice, blames energy costs and red tape

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"It[Stargate UK] was hailed by the British government at the time as a boost for its own ambitions to make the country a world leader in AI." How does having an AI heat farm in the UK help with that? It's still owned and controlled by a US entity. Or is "being a leader" synonymous with "being a customer?"

No no, you see, for a government 'leading in AI' is just spending the most money on it.

For companies too, judging by the number of LinkedIn posts along the lines of

"Our 4-person team's AI bill this month was $100K and I've never been more proud of an invoice"

"If your $250K a year engineers aren't spending $250K a year in tokens, you aren't getting your money's worth"

"If you aren't using at least $500 of tokens a day, it's time for a performance improvement plan"

Re: OpenAI puts Stargate UK on ice, blames energy costs and red tape

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenAI aren't the only ones who were increasing their datacenter capex.

No, but they are the ones who placed an order for 40% of the world's supply.

Sure, but they have competitors who'll be more than happy to pick up whatever OpenAI ultimately doesn't buy. Point being, from POV of suppliers, there's no reason to re-retool for consumer production.

Re: OpenAI puts Stargate UK on ice, blames energy costs and red tape

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Man I thought this was about the new Stargate show which they are filming in the UK. I was trying to square why OpenAI would be in charge of that.

Hiding the stargate inside a commercial data center instead of NORAD would be a neat twist of the genre.

Re: OpenAI puts Stargate UK on ice, blames energy costs and red tape

#37

Elon called it when this was announced. Sam never had the money. Interesting to contrast those two characters. I think Sam is somewhat sociopathic, smooth salesman, not very technical, will say whatever needs to be said to get what he wants. Elon is on the spectrum and has bad social judgement and is just immature in a lot of ways, is very direct and means what he says when he says it, even if it's often unrealistic…

It feels very weird to read that Musk has "better intentions". Better intentions than Altman, or than all the stuff he is saying and doing?

Re: OpenAI puts Stargate UK on ice, blames energy costs and red tape

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post #27

"It[Stargate UK] was hailed by the British government at the time as a boost for its own ambitions to make the country a world leader in AI." How does having an AI heat farm in the UK help with that? It's still owned and controlled by a US entity. Or is "being a leader" synonymous with "being a customer?"

How else do you propose selling the idea of giving a foreign company years of tax breaks in exchange for a minuscule number of jobs while slashing public budgets because there isn't enough tax revenue coming in?

Re: OpenAI puts Stargate UK on ice, blames energy costs and red tape

#39

Elon called it when this was announced. Sam never had the money. Interesting to contrast those two characters. I think Sam is somewhat sociopathic, smooth salesman, not very technical, will say whatever needs to be said to get what he wants. Elon is on the spectrum and has bad social judgement and is just immature in a lot of ways, is very direct and means what he says when he says it, even if it's often unrealistic…

It feels very weird to read that Musk has "better intentions". Better intentions than Altman, or than all the stuff he is saying and doing?

I’m talking about intrinsic motivation, regardless of if you agree/disagree with the politics. Altman wants power for the sake of power. He’s not technical. I think Musk’s power seeking is to achieve technical goals.
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