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Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting claim, where do you gather that data? The quick results I got where from a 2024 report on TheNextWeb claiming its around 90k USD equivalent in Switzerland https://thenextweb.com/news/european-cities-highest-salaries...

https://swissdevjobs.ch/salaries

Thanks for the data, 117500 CHF converted today is around 148k USD, and that means being in the top 25%

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Never heard of them, and this page doesn't tell me what they do, but I've laughed at this line > In most markets Senior developers often command salaries exceeding $150,000 USD per year Not really, there's basically a single sub-market in the US market where that is the norm.

Yeah I'm not sure what they do, or why they need support

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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post #25
post #2

Never heard of them, and this page doesn't tell me what they do, but I've laughed at this line > In most markets Senior developers often command salaries exceeding $150,000 USD per year Not really, there's basically a single sub-market in the US market where that is the norm.

I'd consider this a lowball in Austin

Whats the take-home after housing and expenses tho? It's the same in CA... massive salaries, but also massive taxes+housing expenses.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

#35
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I like the idea. But I’m pretty happy with Signal. Signal does require a phone number I think, but otherwise seems very similar. Grounding identity in a phone number is very reasonable for almost all normal usage. It makes recovery simple. It does block the ultra paranoid use cases though. Oh well.

>Grounding identity in a phone number is very reasonable for almost all normal usage

In many jurisdictions, telecoms form an abusive oligopoly, and you need to provide a state-issued identity document to get a phone number.

That is not at all reasonable for normal usage - unlike well-known non-abusive authentication methods, such as a keypair; or its even simpler cousin, the username/password.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

#36

> In most markets Senior developers often command salaries exceeding $150,000 USD per year Why not outsource this to a cheaper country? For example, here in Germany salaries are about half of that, and the talent pool is excellent.

Id do it for 1/3rd!

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

#37
> In most markets Senior developers often command salaries exceeding $150,000 USD per year, and on top of this there are legal and operational overheads for running the STF.

Translation:

Our product makes no money, has no use case and we need $1M to survive.

Two ways a PE "cost saver" would fix this:

1. Claude + 1x senior engineer (in India).

2. CTO + Claude and no senior engineers / employees.

Given we have (allegedly) achieved "AGI" (heavily disputed) they don't need as many employees.

Especially those that are after $150k+ which when you can vibe code with Claude for less than $10k anyway. /s

Job done.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

#38
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://swissdevjobs.ch/salaries

Thanks for the data, 117500 CHF converted today is around 148k USD, and that means being in the top 25%

It clearly says that the median is 110k CHF ~ 140k USD

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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post #17
post #2

Never heard of them, and this page doesn't tell me what they do, but I've laughed at this line > In most markets Senior developers often command salaries exceeding $150,000 USD per year Not really, there's basically a single sub-market in the US market where that is the norm.

For a senior developer, $150,000 is about right. I'm looking at the latest half dozen jobs I've seen on LinkedIn for open senior developer positions and they all start at that number, and range up to $185k to $200k. Digging a little deeper, I see some th atstart well above that number, but it's for the huge companies you're thinking of -- Google, Netflix, Github.

The claim is that 150k is the baseline that is often exceeded. I don't know the region you're looking for on LinkedIn, but what I see for European jobs is that they barely crack 100k for developers. At least the senior, non highly specialist, jobs I'm seeing.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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post #17
post #2

Never heard of them, and this page doesn't tell me what they do, but I've laughed at this line > In most markets Senior developers often command salaries exceeding $150,000 USD per year Not really, there's basically a single sub-market in the US market where that is the norm.

For a senior developer, $150,000 is about right. I'm looking at the latest half dozen jobs I've seen on LinkedIn for open senior developer positions and they all start at that number, and range up to $185k to $200k. Digging a little deeper, I see some th atstart well above that number, but it's for the huge companies you're thinking of -- Google, Netflix, Github.

Time to broaden their hiring pool then, $150k is double the cost of a senior developer in many other parts of the world (yes including English speaking first world countries).

When you've got 90 days till the doors close you cant be picky about your hiring pool.

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