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We found an undocumented bug in the Apollo 11 guidance computer code

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Re: We found an undocumented bug in the Apollo 11 guidance computer code

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Here's one tell-tale of many: "No alarm, no program light." Another one: "Two instructions are missing: [...] Four bytes." One more: "The defensive coding hid the problem, but it didn’t eliminate it."

This is my exact writing style - I'm screwed.

I doubt you write like that. Where can I find your writing other than your comments which IMO don't read like the blog post?

Re: We found an undocumented bug in the Apollo 11 guidance computer code

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This is so insightfully and powerfully written I had literal chills running down my spine by the end. What a horrible world we live in where the author of great writing like this has to sit and be accused of "being AI slop" simply because they use grammar and rhetoric well.

I was completely riveted the whole read. The description of Collins' dilemma is the first time I've seen an actual real world scenario described that might cause him to return to Earth alone.

If an LLM wrote that, then I no longer oppose LLM art.

Re: We found an undocumented bug in the Apollo 11 guidance computer code

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Here's one tell-tale of many: "No alarm, no program light." Another one: "Two instructions are missing: [...] Four bytes." One more: "The defensive coding hid the problem, but it didn’t eliminate it."

This is just writing; terse maybe and maybe not grammatically correct, but people write like that.

It's not just terseness, it's the rhythm and "it's not x, it's y".

In fact, the latter is the opposite of terseness. LLMs love to tell you what things are not way more than people do.

See https://www.blakestockton.com/dont-write-like-ai-1-101-negat...

(The irony that I started with "it's not just" isn't lost on me)

Re: We found an undocumented bug in the Apollo 11 guidance computer code

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Super interesting. I wish this article wasn’t written by an LLM though. It feels soulless and plastic.

I've seen way, way worse. Either someone LLM-polished something they already wrote, or they did their own manual editing pass.

The short sentence construction is the most suspicious, but I actually don't see anything glaring. It normally jumps out and hits me in the face.

Re: We found an undocumented bug in the Apollo 11 guidance computer code

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For what it’s worth, Pangram thinks this article is fully human-written: https://www.pangram.com/history/f5f68ce9-70ac-4c2b-b0c3-0ca8...

Then pangram isn't very good, because that article is full of Claude-isms.

> because that article is full of Claude-isms

Not sure how I feel about the whole "LLMs learned from human texts, so now the people who helped write human texts are suddenly accused of plagiarizing LLMs" thing yet, but seems backwards so far and like a low quality criticism.

Re: We found an undocumented bug in the Apollo 11 guidance computer code

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Here's one tell-tale of many: "No alarm, no program light." Another one: "Two instructions are missing: [...] Four bytes." One more: "The defensive coding hid the problem, but it didn’t eliminate it."

That's just writing. I frequently write like that. This insistence that certain stylistics patterns are "tell-tale" signs that an article was written by AI makes no sense, particularly when you consider that whatever stylistic ticks an LLM may possess are a result of it being trained on human writing.

I am reminded of the Simpsons episode in which Principal Skinner tries to pass off the hamburgers from a near-by fast food restaurant for an old family recipe, 'steamed hams,' and his guest's probing into the kitchen mishaps is met with increasingly incredible explanations.

Re: We found an undocumented bug in the Apollo 11 guidance computer code

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Super interesting. I wish this article wasn’t written by an LLM though. It feels soulless and plastic.

This is the top reply on a substantial percentage of HN posts now and we should discourage it. It is: - sneering - a shallow dismissal (please address the content) - curmudgeonly - a tangential annoyance All things explicitly discouraged in the site guidelines. [1] Downvoting is the tool for items that you think don't belong on the front page. We don't need the same comment on every single article. [1] - https://news…

> Downvoting is the tool for items that you think don't belong on the front page.

You can’t downvote submissions. That’s literally not a feature of the site. You can only flag submissions, if you have more that 31 karma.

Re: We found an undocumented bug in the Apollo 11 guidance computer code

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See also: “I'm Kenyan. I Don't Write Like ChatGPT. ChatGPT Writes Like Me” by Marcus Olang', https://marcusolang.substack.com/p/im-kenyan-i-dont-write-li... For what it’s worth, Pangram reports that Marcus’ article is 100% LLM-written: https://www.pangram.com/history/640288b9-e16b-4f76-a730-8000...

In theory, wouldn't be too hard be to settle the question if whether he used ChatGPT to write it: get Olang to write a few paragraphs by hand, then have people judge (blindly) if it's the same style as the article. Which one sounds more like ChatGPT.

The times I've written articles, and those have gone through multiple rounds of reviews (by humans) with countless edits each time, before it ends up being published, I wonder if I'd pass that test in those cases. Initial drafts with my scattered thoughts usually are very different from the published end results, even without involving multiple reviewers and editors.

Re: We found an undocumented bug in the Apollo 11 guidance computer code

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Then pangram isn't very good, because that article is full of Claude-isms.

Is it possible for a tool to know if something is AI written with high confidence at all? LLMs can be tuned/instructed to write in an infinite number of styles. Don't understand how these tools exist.

The WikiEDU project has some thoughts on this. They found Pangram good enough to detect LLM usage while teaching editors to make their first Wikipedia edits, at least enough to intervene and nudge the student. They didn’t use it punatively or expect authoritative results however. https://wikiedu.org/blog/2026/01/29/generative-ai-and-wikipe...

They found that Pangram suffers from false positives in non-prose contexts like bibliographies, outlines, formatting, etc. The article does not touch on Pangram’s false negatives.

I personally think it’s an intractable problem, but I do feel pangram gives some useful signal, albeit not reliably.

Re: We found an undocumented bug in the Apollo 11 guidance computer code

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Super interesting. I wish this article wasn’t written by an LLM though. It feels soulless and plastic.

Not to single out your comment, but it feels like it's gotten to the point where HN could use a rule against complaining about AI generated content.

It seems like almost every discussion has at least someone complaining about "AI slop" in either the original post or the comments.

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