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Bernie Sanders: "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People Hold Dear"

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Re: Bernie Sanders: "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People Hold Dear"

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Post by gravypod »

KetoManx64 wrote: post #24
Ancalagon wrote: post #16

wow why are so many comments in this thread against Bernie's stance?

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I've heard this brought up many times but I don't really understand the implications of it. I can't really think of a system of government which hasn't killed large numbers of people. Even the USA's early wars like the civil war have death tolls >500k. We also lose ~7k homeless people every year.

Removing the contexts of those deaths makes it very difficult to evaluate the true causes and if the political ideology is to blame or if the centralization of power common across all governments leads to deaths.

Re: Bernie Sanders: "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People Hold Dear"

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Post by KetoManx64 »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #25
KetoManx64 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Not a Bernie supporter, to put it mildly, but to be fair he has never called himself a communist. Making up BS doesn't help.

Sure has done a lot to support communism for someone that has never called himself a communist: https://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sande...

Re: Bernie Sanders: "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People Hold Dear"

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Post by 0xy »

SilverElfin wrote: post #30

It’s a threat to employment, stability, and democracy. AI is going to solidify the concentration of wealth and power like never before. It’s why so many young people fear being in the “permanent underclass”. I haven’t agreed with socialists historically but we need to change our economic and political system to have more socialism than before, and especially to reduce the concentration in the hands of a few individua…

Explain why this stance, repeated often throughout history at the first sight of innovation (the plow, the car, electricity, phones, the internet, etc), and wrong every single time, is correct now.

Re: Bernie Sanders: "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People Hold Dear"

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

0xy wrote: post #35
SilverElfin wrote: post #30

It’s a threat to employment, stability, and democracy. AI is going to solidify the concentration of wealth and power like never before. It’s why so many young people fear being in the “permanent underclass”. I haven’t agreed with socialists historically but we need to change our economic and political system to have more socialism than before, and especially to reduce the concentration in the hands of a few individua…

Explain why this stance, repeated often throughout history at the first sight of innovation (the plow, the car, electricity, phones, the internet, etc), and wrong every single time, is correct now.

The plow was regarded as a threat to democracy? I'm going to need to see some references for that claim...

Re: Bernie Sanders: "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People Hold Dear"

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Post by slater »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #36
0xy wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Explain why this stance, repeated often throughout history at the first sight of innovation (the plow, the car, electricity, phones, the internet, etc), and wrong every single time, is correct now.

The plow was regarded as a threat to democracy? I'm going to need to see some references for that claim...

(not OP but likely they're trying some "Luddites were wrong, too!" thing. And if so, also misunderstanding the Luddites)

Re: Bernie Sanders: "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People Hold Dear"

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Post by therobots927 »

fortran77 wrote: post #39
therobots927 wrote: post #38

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I think flagging an op-ed by a sitting Senator that appeared in the WSJ is an abuse of the flagging system. I don’t like Bernie at all, but I thought it was a very relevant item to post.

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