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81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by andrewla »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #6

Stuff like this should always have an analog failsafe like a printable ticket. I can’t be the only one who has a phone actually die out and about. Especially as this device gets a little old, battery drops maybe 1% every 2 min of screen on use. Even worse in crowded cell service situations like baseball games.

Ticket counterfeiting is the core problem that they are trying to prevent. If there's a fallback method then that fallback method can be abused to forge tickets.

EDIT: I know complaining about downvotes is a downvotable offense itself, but I'm genuinely curious as to what is objectionable about this comment.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

xvector wrote: post #16
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is it doesn't have to be life. We can make things so that you don't need a smartphone, but we choose not to. That's a choice, not some immutable reality of the universe.

We can, but why should we?

Because the future will be very dystopian if we place two tech companies as gatekeepers of everything in life. If Google locks your account and won't help you (which happens!), you don't want that to also take away your ability to bank, go to baseball games, etc.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by Aachen »

engineer_22 wrote: post #14
ggoo wrote: post #7

I wish people would stop posting twitter links, they're a coin toss if they're even viewable

This one is viewable

Posted 9 minutes before your comment... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47662987

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

freeqaz wrote: post #12
kjkjadksj wrote: post #6

Stuff like this should always have an analog failsafe like a printable ticket. I can’t be the only one who has a phone actually die out and about. Especially as this device gets a little old, battery drops maybe 1% every 2 min of screen on use. Even worse in crowded cell service situations like baseball games.

Also a good fallback if your phone screen cracked 2 hours before. But I can imagine part of the challenge they are facing here are scalpers. TicketMaster app 'rotates' the actual ticket every 30 seconds. Can't rotate paper. I'd think that having a 2nd factor like presenting ID that matches the ticket would be sufficient there though.

You don’t need the app itself to get the rotating tickets, the algorithm is pretty dumb and was reverse engineered back in 2024. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40906148

You probably still need a device of some kind though.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by Sayrus »

gnerd00 wrote: post #30
bradley13 wrote: post #27

Parking in my town can now only be paid via smartphone. Yes, almost everyone has one, but: there are still people who do not.

don't you understand that this means a data trail to your location and government ID ? connecting to your ability to pay a legal fine? You are consenting to that ?

And your car, license and insurance are not such a connection?

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by ryandrake »

bradley13 wrote: post #27

Parking in my town can now only be paid via smartphone. Yes, almost everyone has one, but: there are still people who do not.

I love it how they can't think of any other way to pay for parking than via smartphone, but if you just park there without paying, they'll offer you many ways to pay the fine.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by Molitor5901 »

elevation wrote: post #25

We need to extend the ADA to protect people who are not technologically-abled.

This is a really good point. I'm surprised the box office cannot print it for him for a fee at Will Call, which might be the solution here.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by jasonjayr »

bradley13 wrote: post #27

Parking in my town can now only be paid via smartphone. Yes, almost everyone has one, but: there are still people who do not.

And sometimes, it seems like there's no fallback if you have no [working] smartphone. I knew someone who had a working smartphone, but a broken camera for few months. Couldn't scan any qrcodes to use these services till the phone was replaced.
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