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EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by kemayo »

echelon wrote: post #10
kocialnews wrote: post #4

The power of WordPress is not the ease of use, but PHP. Anything built on PHP will be widely used, like Laravel

All PHP is going to be replaced with single binary Rust apps. Talented teams will build the atoms for most apps - blogs, CMSes, ticket systems, forums - and it'll be easy for end users to configure. Rust is easy to code gen and deploy now. No barrier to understanding lifetimes. It's the language everyone should be using Claude Code to emit. Everyone is now a Rust engineer with 10 years of experience. (I'm not joking,…

I'm not sure you appreciate why PHP was successful. You might be completely right about all this, but the LAMP-stack "just upload this file to shared hosting" workflow is what made apps like WordPress win out, and the barrier remains significantly higher to do the equivalent with Rust.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by tadfisher »

vasco wrote: post #20
embedding-shape wrote: post #7

> Our name for this new CMS is EmDash. We think of it as the spiritual successor to WordPress. It’s written entirely in TypeScript. It is serverless, but you can run it on your own hardware or any platform you choose. Plugins are securely sandboxed and can run in their own isolate, via Dynamic Workers, solving the fundamental security problem with the WordPress plugin architecture. And under the hood, EmDash is power…

The question is then they'd be building some brand new thing not compatible with wordpress. Supposedly the proposition is to steal people away from wordpress. Not just get people building something from scratch looking for a new framework. I'm guessing the recent lawsuits also provide some momentum.

It's not compatible with WordPress, though. It slurps a WordPress export, which is quite literally static data. They expect you to code up anything dynamic using their agent skill.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by squidbeak »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #6

The problem is that it doesn't solve the network-effect problem. People aren't on WordPress because of WordPress. They're on WordPress because of WooCommerce, a million themes, BuddyPress, integrations for every stupid internal business API on the planet (many of which are terrible and were written by an idiot with a crayon). The APIs will have no testing because they are bad. In many cases the WordPress implementati…

You seem to have missed the point. This is intended to be more secure in a new world where exploits will be cheap to discover. The factors you mention won't keep people onboard if systems are compromised every day in too many ways for fragmented security teams to keep on top of.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by onion2k »

kocialnews wrote: post #4

The power of WordPress is not the ease of use, but PHP. Anything built on PHP will be widely used, like Laravel

That used to be a major selling point because hosts enabled PHP for a directory devs would FTP things into, but those days are thankfully long gone. I don't think it's any more difficult to host a JS, TS, or anything else, app than it is to host a PHP app today. In fact, PHP is probably more difficult than something like Netlify.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by woodylondon »

Reading the comments below, have we all fallen for a 1st April Fools' joke?

Actually, rebuilding WordPress without the ecosystem is kind of the point. For example, would Divi or the major page builders rebuild their entire products to support this? I doubt it

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