This is ironic timing given the OnlyOffice/Euro-Office drama https://www.heise.de/en/news/Euro-Office-OnlyOffice-accuses-...
Microsoft really has nothing to fear ...
The Document Foundation ejects its core developers
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Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers
#32Haha, imagine it Apache would merge LibreOffice back to OpenOffice, and developers also switched. Would be the circle of the decade. On a different note, this industry used to have so much more fun - just solving puzzles to herd bits - before it was flooded by politics.
> On a different note, this industry used to have so much more fun - just solving puzzles to herd bits - before it was flooded by politics.
when was that, in the 80s?
Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers
#33I don't have enough background to know if this is an April Fool's joke or not?
Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers
#34Pro tip: If you're trying to raise awareness of an issue that's important to you, don't lard up your exposition with sarcasm, insider references and incomprehensible innuendo. If all you manage to communicate is that you're unhappy, people may feel sorry for you but they won't know why. Say what you mean in plain language; explain the issues and why they matter, and let your readers come to their own conclusions.
Agreed, I found this article hard to follow and emotive in a way that made it feel extremely biased.
Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers
#35OK here's my understanding: - LibreOfficeOnLine (LOOL) was created within The Document Foundation (TDF) but largely developed by Collabora. It was source only and suggested users pay a company to host for them. - Some within TDF wanted to offer LOOL as a binary offering. - Collabora moved their contributions to Collabora Online, which they controlled. - LOOL was archived. - More recently, LOOL was revived - Collabora…
Collabora was unhappy about the LOOL revival, but not enough to leave.
It was only when TDF contrived reasons to expel Collabora people that Collabora decided to leave.
(Full Disclosure: I am one of the Collabora people expelled)
Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers
#36Haha, imagine it Apache would merge LibreOffice back to OpenOffice, and developers also switched. Would be the circle of the decade. On a different note, this industry used to have so much more fun - just solving puzzles to herd bits - before it was flooded by politics.
It seems that way, but it's been flooded with politics for all my adult life. Steve Jackson Games, the Clipper Chip, software patent shenanigans, the public domain stolen from 1976 to 2019, endless thinly-disguised censorship and control efforts - in meatspace, nothing is new.
Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers
#37OK here's my understanding: - LibreOfficeOnLine (LOOL) was created within The Document Foundation (TDF) but largely developed by Collabora. It was source only and suggested users pay a company to host for them. - Some within TDF wanted to offer LOOL as a binary offering. - Collabora moved their contributions to Collabora Online, which they controlled. - LOOL was archived. - More recently, LOOL was revived - Collabora…
I wish we would admit that you can't have it all. You can't have a product that is open source with neutral foundation governance and also have that same product be de facto proprietary. People have been pushing this bait-and-switch business model for too long.
It was not really proprietary though? I don't like Collabora Office at all as a product (sorry, and I have tried) and the branding situation is super messy (sorry but it's true) but all the code is online.
Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers
#38Pro tip: If you're trying to raise awareness of an issue that's important to you, don't lard up your exposition with sarcasm, insider references and incomprehensible innuendo. If all you manage to communicate is that you're unhappy, people may feel sorry for you but they won't know why. Say what you mean in plain language; explain the issues and why they matter, and let your readers come to their own conclusions.
I'm sorry it's confusing, perhaps an attempt to add humor to a bleak and dramatic change in the LibreOffice project has made it less than clear. The bald facts are fairly simple: The Document Foundation, now ~controlled by its non-programmer staff just ejected its main core code contributors based on complicated and apparently contrived reasons. Lots of non-profits get bogged down in pointless in-fighting that eats a…
What are the complicated apparently contrived reasons?
It's not at all clear from the article.
All I really got from the article is "collabora are banned from contributing to open office, and aren't happy about it". What reason did they give? What's the actual reason you think it is (you mention things are contrived, so I assume there's another reason you think)? What's the libre office online stuff got to do with it?
All of this is unclear from the article.
Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers
#39Euro office looking very suspicious here
Euro Office and OnlyOffice drama is not directly related to this office drama.
A different drama
Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers
#40Pro tip: If you're trying to raise awareness of an issue that's important to you, don't lard up your exposition with sarcasm, insider references and incomprehensible innuendo. If all you manage to communicate is that you're unhappy, people may feel sorry for you but they won't know why. Say what you mean in plain language; explain the issues and why they matter, and let your readers come to their own conclusions.
This exactly sums up my read of this. I have no idea what is going on but it appears to impact a thing I use in my nextcloud so I should possibly care, but damned if I have any idea what is going on here.
I think you meant OnlyOffice(?) it seems like there is also some turbulence and you will soon be migrated to a fork(?)
https://alternativeto.net/news/2026/4/onlyoffice-ends-its-pa...