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I hear there is this amazing new app you can install to avoid all of the TDS you dislike so much.
We intercepted the White House app's network traffic
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I'm sure that HN's preferred app would be <5MB, and has zero third party SDKs or telemetry, but half a dozen SDKs and third party domains is basically most mass market apps these days. Is it bad? Yes, but the whitehouse isn't being egregiously bad, but "whitehouse app is bad, just like most other apps" isn't going to get clicks.
"everything else sucks too" is not a great defense for the US govt.
If only. It would be a far better state of of affairs if the US government sucks like every other first world country. No other first country are waging war in the middle east, having paramilitary forces terrorize residents, or are undergoing a partial government shutdown.
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#33So like... most b2c apps out there? I checked app privacy report for a few such apps I have installed and also got a very high proportion of third party domains. Maybe not as high as 77% but definitely above 50% (ie. more domains are third party than first party). The most surprising part here is them refusing to put correct info in the "data collected" section of the app store listing. edit: they seemed to have upda…
I'm happy to be against both the white houses' 3rd party telemetry as well as other apps. I can multitask.
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Perhaps if Trump did not want his opponents to be deranged about him, he should not have published a video where he puts on a crown then gets in a bomber jet and dumps poo on them. But of course, that's the trick; I've been called deranged in the past just for accurately reporting that he published that video!
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>You are the one who made the initial comparison to B2C apps, so it seems like a fair question to me. The relevant part of B2C is the 2C part, not the B. Mass market apps are generally ridden with telemetry and SDKs. Moreover I'm not sure how you think it's a "fair question" to go from a remark about how other apps are equally bad, to thinking I want the US government to operate as a business. It's like doing: A: "I…
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>You are the one who made the initial comparison to B2C apps, so it seems like a fair question to me. The relevant part of B2C is the 2C part, not the B. Mass market apps are generally ridden with telemetry and SDKs. Moreover I'm not sure how you think it's a "fair question" to go from a remark about how other apps are equally bad, to thinking I want the US government to operate as a business. It's like doing: A: "I…
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>Ok, so then it just sounds like whataboutism.
The flip side of "whataboutism" is "isolated demands for rigor"[1]. Going back to the IRS example, is it a fair retort to point out that IRS's hotline only sucks as much as any other large organization's hotline, or is it "whataboutism"?
[1] https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/14/beware-isolated-demand...
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#37So like... most b2c apps out there? I checked app privacy report for a few such apps I have installed and also got a very high proportion of third party domains. Maybe not as high as 77% but definitely above 50% (ie. more domains are third party than first party). The most surprising part here is them refusing to put correct info in the "data collected" section of the app store listing. edit: they seemed to have upda…
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Perhaps if Trump did not want his opponents to be deranged about him, he should not have published a video where he puts on a crown then gets in a bomber jet and dumps poo on them. But of course, that's the trick; I've been called deranged in the past just for accurately reporting that he published that video!
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#39Ads are coming next.
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>Ok, so then it just sounds like whataboutism. The flip side of "whataboutism" is "isolated demands for rigor"[1]. Going back to the IRS example, is it a fair retort to point out that IRS's hotline only sucks as much as any other large organization's hotline, or is it "whataboutism"? [1] https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/14/beware-isolated-demand...
It's the government, the US government. By far the largest employer and spender in the world. So yes, they are held to a higher standard. Businesses intentionally throttle customer service lines for profit reasons. The government should not. How is this difficult to understand?