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Re: Apple Business

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Post by martibravo »

martibravo wrote: post #30
selectively wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft is a giant enterprise software company that also publishes Candy Crush and Call of Duty. Intune and Windows are 'nice to have' but are not the business-business. The business is 365 (which runs on Macs and is worlds better than Apple's office suite + Apple's hosted email is god awful) and Azure.

A lot of new businesses are going the Notion/Google Drive route for docs, tables and knowledge, plus Canva for presentations and more visual work. It's not the majority, but the market is there.

Plus Pages, Numbers and Keynote are free on Macs, minus the new paid features. I think it's a no brainer for new businesses

Re: Apple Business

#32

Post by ceejayoz »

sosodev wrote: post #25
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is “late” to everything which is why it’s the leader Being early is the same as being wrong and there’s no business value in costly exploration of new territory at least in the 21st century Name me a single company that is still in business and dominating a market based on being first to market with a new product.

TSMC. They dominate the semiconductor market because they're consistently first to market with the world's most advanced chip fabrication.

But they're an example of the same phenomeon; they were founded in 1987, long after chip fabrication was a thing. They just did it right.

Re: Apple Business

#33

Post by 999900000999 »

martibravo wrote: post #17

599$ serviceable MacBooks, easy to use MDM, Cloud, Email and Calendar and flat-fee AppleCare all baked in? New businesses under 50 employees are going to eat this up like there's no tomorrow. I'd be scared if I was certain Redmond corporation who makes their money on 365 and Intune.

*499$ with an EDU discount which definitely means they have margin for business deals.

Revenge of the Mac. Theirs simply no reason for any normal person to buy anything else. The year of Linux is deferred yet again.

Re: Apple Business

#34

Post by awakeasleep »

SamuelAdams wrote: post #26

So do enterprises still need Jamf [1]? For context, Jamf is one of the most common MDM tools for organizations. [1]: https://www.jamf.com/

Big yes. Enterprises need support and a relationship with their supplier where their needs can change product direction.

Jamf will do that. Apple will not.

Re: Apple Business

#35

Post by AndrewKemendo »

sosodev wrote: post #25
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is “late” to everything which is why it’s the leader Being early is the same as being wrong and there’s no business value in costly exploration of new territory at least in the 21st century Name me a single company that is still in business and dominating a market based on being first to market with a new product.

TSMC. They dominate the semiconductor market because they're consistently first to market with the world's most advanced chip fabrication.

Absolutely not TSMC was and has always been a pure play “execution” of chip foundry, based on the government of Taiwan taking financial bets on a growing chip market.

In no way was TSMC the first to market for chips or chip production or even any major chip fab product at its outset.

In fact they did exactly the Apple model and took what TI was doing and used government money to scale it. I don’t know a single unique product from TSMC

If anything Texas Instruments (which is I grew up around in Houston) could be considered actually building a good product from scratch, look at them now…

Re: Apple Business

#36

Post by unshavedyak »

bitpush wrote: post #13
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is “late” to everything which is why it’s the leader Being early is the same as being wrong and there’s no business value in costly exploration of new territory at least in the 21st century Name me a single company that is still in business and dominating a market based on being first to market with a new product.

Vision Pro.

Honestly seems like a supportive argument. Yea, your amendment clearly shows Apple isn't always right/late, but Vision Pro is an example of them being early and how far they miss when they're early hah.

(I don't have a side in this discussion)

Re: Apple Business

#37

Post by AndrewKemendo »

bitpush wrote: post #13
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is “late” to everything which is why it’s the leader Being early is the same as being wrong and there’s no business value in costly exploration of new territory at least in the 21st century Name me a single company that is still in business and dominating a market based on being first to market with a new product.

Vision Pro.

Vision Pro failed

Apple fails at every novel thing they try and crushes it at every thing they copy

Re: Apple Business

#38

Post by martibravo »

999900000999 wrote: post #33
martibravo wrote: post #17

599$ serviceable MacBooks, easy to use MDM, Cloud, Email and Calendar and flat-fee AppleCare all baked in? New businesses under 50 employees are going to eat this up like there's no tomorrow. I'd be scared if I was certain Redmond corporation who makes their money on 365 and Intune.

*499$ with an EDU discount which definitely means they have margin for business deals. Revenge of the Mac. Theirs simply no reason for any normal person to buy anything else. The year of Linux is deferred yet again.

Agreed. I'd love to see what prices companies get for volume purchases. I'm the IT Manager in a small team and if the Neo and this was available last year when we set up MDM/Exchange/SharePoint I would have considered it. Specially on the hardware side, ROI/longevity on an Apple Silicon Macbook is times higher than any given Windows laptop.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by [deleted] »

giobox wrote: post #19

How does this differ from the existing "Business Essentials" tool? The landing page for each looks like much the same product, at least the MDM stuff does? > https://business.apple.com/preview > https://www.apple.com/business/essentials/

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