Clickup is kinda like this (trash software btw) where it combines all these things. Its super cumbersome to deal with all of them in the same UI. For example, you will be chatting with someone, need to look at ticket, you have to completely leave the context of the chat to find the ticket. Yeah you can have multiple tabs, but still cumbersome. Would rather have a chat app for chat, documentation in documentation... s…
Dobase – Open-source, self-hosted workspace with installable tools
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see the issue - the creator is reserving the right to create their own paid hosted version?
That's absolutely fine for them, but they shouldn't call it "Open-source" and "Fully open source" (like they do on the linked page). This software is source-available. Open Source licenses don't discriminate on the basis use of the software. Using the term Open Source for license like this is dishonest. It seeks to profit from the goodwill from actual Open Source software.
Re: Dobase – Open-source, self-hosted workspace with installable tools
#33IMO we need more sovereign systems like this (this is too simple IMO). Other sovereign systems are complex to deploy. if good FOSS commodity options come up, then we can expect a hosting/deployment infra and companies to setup and offer it for non self-hosters as well - ala WordPress.
I wish that more apps would instead move the logic to the client and use files on file syncing services as databases. Taking tasks as an example, if a task board were just a file, I could share it with you on Dropbox / Drive / whatever we both use, and we wouldn't need a dedicated backend at all.
The approach has limitations (conflict resolution, authorization, and latency are the big ones), but it is feasible and actually completely fine for lots of apps.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could you elaborate on what makes Clickup "trash software", is it something specific to Clickup or your opinion around this entire "class" of all-in-one workspace?
Here are a few things off the top: - horrible optimization - video calls will easily bloat 1-3gb of ram - buggy, things that should work sometimes don't - e.g. sometimes you click to write... you get a spinner, wait 10 seconds - poor ux. I have been using it for 4+ years at work, still have trouble finding things - yeah, all things in one interface These are opinions. People can have different. To me, its just a slow…
Re: Dobase – Open-source, self-hosted workspace with installable tools
#35This seems exactly not what you want. If fully invested in this, you never have the freedom to switch tools, ie go to a different team chat solution. The benefits of having these apps in one UI / ecosystem are relatively small: files - teamchat makes sense, but todo-email, kanban-recpies doesn't add any value. Like samdixon mentions with ClickUp, the downside is quite large UX wise: you'd be constantly switching cont…
Also, I'm not familiar with ClickUp nor Dobase, but I imagine you can have them open in multiple tabs, allowing for your preferred way of working?
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's absolutely fine for them, but they shouldn't call it "Open-source" and "Fully open source" (like they do on the linked page). This software is source-available. Open Source licenses don't discriminate on the basis use of the software. Using the term Open Source for license like this is dishonest. It seeks to profit from the goodwill from actual Open Source software.
Maybe you're right, but FSL/BSL is arguably "more open source" than GPL. We all know GPL is a poison pill that kills commercial use, while FSL/BSL just blocks competitors from stealing your app.
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#37Can I drag an email directly onto a Kanban or a Todo list, and prioritize it like a task, and then click on the card or task to go directly to the mail message, in the context of its thread?
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#38> No licensee or downstream recipient may use the Software (including any modified or derivative versions) to directly compete with the original Licensor by offering it to third parties as a hosted, managed, or Software-as-a-Service (SaaS) product or cloud service where the primary value of the service is the functionality of the Software itself. No thanks. These “almost-but-not-quite-FOSS” licenses are a blight.
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#39The commit log is filled with AI generated commits. I wouldn’t trust that on my server.
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#40Can I drag an email directly onto a Kanban or a Todo list, and prioritize it like a task, and then click on the card or task to go directly to the mail message, in the context of its thread?