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Re: DoorDash Tasks

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Post by fragmede »

k33n wrote: post #27
simonw wrote: post #7

> Tasks and the new app are currently available in select places in the U.S., excluding California, New York City, Seattle and Colorado. Anyone know why that is? (Claude thinks it's because those places have gig worker protection laws such that "classifying Dashers as independent contractors for non-delivery work is most legally risky")

Those jurisdictions stifle innovation. Thankfully, the vast majority of the US does not do that. Door Dashers in 99% of the US will now have a button to click that will put more money in their pockets. Very good!

Pretty sure Task rabbit operates in said jurisdictions, so it's not that.

Re: DoorDash Tasks

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Post by EA-3167 »

k33n wrote: post #27
simonw wrote: post #7

> Tasks and the new app are currently available in select places in the U.S., excluding California, New York City, Seattle and Colorado. Anyone know why that is? (Claude thinks it's because those places have gig worker protection laws such that "classifying Dashers as independent contractors for non-delivery work is most legally risky")

Those jurisdictions stifle innovation. Thankfully, the vast majority of the US does not do that. Door Dashers in 99% of the US will now have a button to click that will put more money in their pockets. Very good!

Innovation in what exactly?

Re: DoorDash Tasks

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Post by reddozen »

matthewdgreen wrote: post #20
vovavili wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neither of these two things are something that DoorDash as a company can realistically do anything about.

DoorDash lobbies heavily against laws that would regulate labor, or classify its workers as “employees” and thus require they be covered by the minimal protections our country offers.

If the politicians are bought out by evil DoorDash's lobbying, why don't the voters just vote the politicians out? Do you have any evidence of a politician voting against their constituents' interests for personal gain?

Re: DoorDash Tasks

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Post by johnisgood »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #25

If you haven’t figured it out by now the future of all work is transfer learning and encoding human action so that all possible action is mechanized and commoditized. I’ve been obsessed with this problem for the better part of 20 years The fact that we’re finally starting to see it realized is very exciting

Straight out of Black Mirror.

Re: DoorDash Tasks

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Post by fragmede »

steezeburger wrote: post #26
hhh wrote: post #16

There was a startup that did this in the mid 2010s named Magic, but was just via SMS. I used it a few times to get random things done, and it was really useful when it was cheap, then it became mega expensive.

I don't quite get how that would work. They were completing tasks to train models but via sms? Can you elaborate?

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/magic

It is a VA firm.

Re: DoorDash Tasks

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Post by CSMastermind »

cheesecompiler wrote: post #4

Labour getting ever-granular in the age of micro-loans and RentAHuman. > "Dashers have a new way to earn on their own terms" The classic meaning inversion of precariousness and lack of benefits as a virtue.

It's also unlocking economic value that was impossible to realize in the old model. If you're sitting around your house with nothing to do for an hour you can now earn money in ways you couldn't before.

Re: DoorDash Tasks

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Post by brianwawok »

reddozen wrote: post #33
matthewdgreen wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DoorDash lobbies heavily against laws that would regulate labor, or classify its workers as “employees” and thus require they be covered by the minimal protections our country offers.

If the politicians are bought out by evil DoorDash's lobbying, why don't the voters just vote the politicians out? Do you have any evidence of a politician voting against their constituents' interests for personal gain?

Ignoring the easy second line, the answer to the first line is: we have two political parties in the US. What if neither are doing what the voters want?

Re: DoorDash Tasks

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Post by spicyusername »

CSMastermind wrote: post #36
cheesecompiler wrote: post #4

Labour getting ever-granular in the age of micro-loans and RentAHuman. > "Dashers have a new way to earn on their own terms" The classic meaning inversion of precariousness and lack of benefits as a virtue.

It's also unlocking economic value that was impossible to realize in the old model. If you're sitting around your house with nothing to do for an hour you can now earn money in ways you couldn't before.

"value"

Re: DoorDash Tasks

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Post by _doctor_love »

I had a terrible thought while out on a hike the other day. I'm almost loath to post it on HN because I worry some idiot is going to read it and think it's a good idea. On the other hand, if I thought of it, it's just a matter of time before someone else does.

Here is the idea: programmers may move to a DoorDash like model as well in the future. You may have full time employment but it will be at a much lower base salary than in the past.

Instead of working on "stories" you will work "contracts."

So someone wants feature X or system Y, that's a contract. You get paid on delivery.

Meaning, since it will become possible to build more complete / fleshed out things with enough requirements and so forth with the use of AI, the best programmers will really be the best 'coding drone operators.' Whoever can get the most jobs done in the shortest amount of time at the highest quality for the least tokens, they'll rule the roost.

Real compensation will then happen in terms of boosts to the base salary for getting contracts done, similar to how many execs are paid a low salary and then are expected to earn their keep by the bonuses and equity the earn for delivering results. (Yes, I know, delivering results, har har).

Re: DoorDash Tasks

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Post by stego-tech »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #25

If you haven’t figured it out by now the future of all work is transfer learning and encoding human action so that all possible action is mechanized and commoditized. I’ve been obsessed with this problem for the better part of 20 years The fact that we’re finally starting to see it realized is very exciting

It’d be nice if folks like yourself were equally obsessed with the systemic harms that would come about from solving or addressing this problem rather than charging full-speed ahead into the unknown at everyone else’s expense.

Problems aren’t solely technological in nature, nor are their impacts and solutions. Never forget the humans behind the models.

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