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I got laid off and realized how broken tech hiring is

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Re: I got laid off and realized how broken tech hiring is

#32

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Seems like, if anyone hires you, you are guaranteed to leave before two years so maybe it's easier to save the trouble.

The average tenure of a Senior SWE is 2 years, what's the problem here? Are you looking for someone that would stay for 20 years?

Certainly not true of FAANG engineers, most people are wanting to stay for their initial vest.

I think 3-4 years is a much better signal.

Re: I got laid off and realized how broken tech hiring is

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like, if anyone hires you, you are guaranteed to leave before two years so maybe it's easier to save the trouble.

The average tenure of a Senior SWE is 2 years, what's the problem here? Are you looking for someone that would stay for 20 years?

When I was hiring on behalf of a client, the average tenure was 1-1.5 years for mid-level in Australia. I was surprised but then I started hearing common stories. The two most common ones were the following.

The market rates were going up(and inflation going up more), people would ask their employers for an increase in compensation and get denied with broken promises. They'd wait to see if those promises go anywhere and then realize it's not going to happen so decide to change employers(and their employers act shocked).

Similarly, employment conditions were deteriorating and burn out spreading. People would ask their employers for a change in conditions such as hiring more staff and get denied with broken promises. They'd wait and well, see above.

On the other side of the spectrum, there were some with over 10 years of experience at the same place and lacked the knowledge of anything outside their employer's bubble. Their manager changed or redundancies started or something triggers and now they have to look elsewhere with their "loyalty" meaning nothing except being a detriment.

Re: I got laid off and realized how broken tech hiring is

#35

Tech hiring is no more broken than it’s been in my 30 years across 10 jobs - you’re doing it wrong. If you are just spamming ATSs instead of using your network or reaching out to targeted companies, it’s always been a shit show

> reaching out to targeted companies

Can you elaborate?

Re: I got laid off and realized how broken tech hiring is

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Tech hiring is no more broken than it’s been in my 30 years across 10 jobs - you’re doing it wrong. If you are just spamming ATSs instead of using your network or reaching out to targeted companies, it’s always been a shit show

> reaching out to targeted companies Can you elaborate?

The first thing is that you have to have a specialized skillset. Web development, back end developer, mobile or even “cloud” by itself is not specialized. Then reach out to companies that are looking for those skills

There all sorts of path dependent specialties that people have that let them stand out.

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